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ee938 No.33943

The bump limit for the previous threads was close enough I felt creating a new one may be warranted.

Beginning thread: http://pregchan.com/d/res/12251.html

Sir Edward of Virilia, a young and handsome aristocrat is called upon to select his bride to be. He is presented with a selection of nobleladies from various Kingdoms who are desperate to be bred. He selects Crown Princess Tharja of Ruhemania, travels to her home country, and takes his place as her father, King Vlad's, heir.

Second thread: http://pregchan.com/d/res/14131.html

Crown Prince Edward, now realizing the country has many details that weren't told to him when he selected his bride, finds himself struggling to grow accustomed to castle life, learn the secrets of the country's history, and discovers all is not what it seems.

Third thread: http://pregchan.com/d/res/15553.html

Crown Prince Edward realizes he was cursed from the start. He confronts who is responsible and must make a choice that will affect the direction of the entire country, all in the same, long, sleepless night.

Fourth thread: http://web.archive.org/web/20160412094726/http://bbw-chan.net/elite/res/536.html

King Edward now finds himself the undisputed King of Ruhemania, with many tools to use to decide how he will accomplish his reign. Chief among them is his relationship with the Infinite Golden Witch Beatrice, and what she is willing, and not willing, to do for him.

Fifth thread: http://pregchan.com/d/res/16909.html

King Edward learns much about what is a threat to him and what isn't, and the castle is temporarily set on its ear when a mysterious waif named Erika appears, asking to be invited inside.

Sixth thread: http://pregchan.com/d/res/24119.html

Life at the castle is becoming stable, and Edward juggles several projects at once to make sure it stays that way. A tower is being built to accommodate Beatrice, and a grand Summer Faire is being planned to endear himself to the hearts and minds of his new subjects. The plans slowly start to take shape, with the occasional situation to be dealt with along the way.

Please, use this chat thread for in-depth discussions, feedback, and emotional reactions:


The new update will be posted shortly.

ee938 No.33945

No need to imply what isn't true.

You doubt anyone will visit your tower, even with the relaxed order.

So you tell the guard you will be in your tower, but if someone who has valid business with you needs to ascend, they are free.

Another maid with your laundry or linen to change the sheets in your room, or some such thing would count as valid business.

The guard nods and tells you it's understood, Your Majesty.


You proceed up the stairs, with Margaret behind you.

Walking the stairs is unpleasantly tiring on your muscles, but it gives you time to think.

You wonder if the guard spreading rumors about an affair with Margaret would have affected her?

Possibly, though probably not.

It would probably be framed as 'The King took yet another beautiful girl to his chambers.' Margaret did have that allure to her.

The maids and soldiers don't seem to have duties that overlap much, and therefore likely no time to share gossip. Not to mention the maids consisted of mostly old women and the soldiers were your loyal soldiers.


Margaret was your personal maid, once.

She probably had tried to climb your tower in the course of performing her duties, only to be told 'The King has requested he not be disturbed by anyone, even a maid.'

Margaret would probably be savvy enough to understand the implication. Especially with how you were seen interacting with Beatrice.

–Yes, Margaret would've taken the command of 'don't let anyone ascend, except Tharja' as a sign you might be attempting to show her amorous attention.

Hopefully this will put her more at ease… or perhaps disappoint her.

Though that was probably too much to hope.

You push open the door to your chambers, and step inside, inviting Margaret in after you before you shut the door behind you both.

Your dirty laundry is gone, but your bed has not been made up yet, you note.


Margaret waits for you to take the initiative. Her face is professionally unemotional, but not cold.

You did invite her here.

It falls to you to get the ball rolling.

This may be the most nervous you've felt when alone with a maid.

Certainly, you have all the power compared to Margaret. You're King. Margaret is your subject and servant.

But the situation is… delicate.

It's not so simple as you deciding something and then telling Margaret what to do.

You have to see how willing she is to come clean with the problem and work with you to finding a solution.

If… that was even possible.

"Your Majesty," says Margaret.

She doesn't say it like a question, but she's clearly wondering what you intend to say.


You had to decide first how you were going to bring this up.

You could be blunt.

Just state openly that you overheard her talk with Elizabeth this morning.

It would definitely let you get to the point quicker.


It might be better to gradually bring up the conversation, indirectly, and only reveal what you know once she has mentally adjusted to the fact that you have more in mind than a quick apology for starting an 'orgy' right in front of her face.

That would definitely be the more subtle option.

However, if Margaret was being honest about wanting to return to her duties quickly, she might appreciate the blunt approach a bit better?

It'll waste less time than working your way up to it.

… Though you aren't sure the shock of being told so easily that the King was spying on her will pass quickly.

At any rate, you've stalled enough.

You decide how you'll start the conversation with Margaret and begin speaking.

Choice time:
>Be blunt and direct. You heard her conversation with Elizabeth in the servants' quarters this morning. You want to hear more about the situation and help remedy it.
>Be subtle. Begin with apologizing for the 'orgy', talk about herself and Elizabeth and the other maids, and gradually work your way up to the issues discussed in her and Elizabeth's conversation before revealing you overheard it.

8b554 No.33952

Option one. It's his castle, he can go where ever he likes. Why should he hide the fact that he was in the servants' quarters this morning? Also: Subtlety really isn't Edward's strength. Let's be as open as we can, explain to her that we will treat Elizabeth (and the child that she now knows about) well, that we genuinely care for her and she need not fear for her.

c6f8b No.33958

I second this, but we can also add that we don't intend to make spying a habit.

Option 1

84c03 No.33960

Option 1

We should definitely apologize for eavesdropping

cc246 No.33967

>Be subtle

fdb43 No.33971

Option 1.

88e0d No.33986

Option 1

ee938 No.34019

>5 votes for option one, be blunt and direct, proceeding immediately to a discussion of Elizabeth and the problem she has.
>1 vote for option two, be subtle and build up to mentioning the content of the conversation you overheard.

Be direct with your eavesdropping and engage with Margaret for solutions without playing around or trying to be subtle.

You decide to be blunt.

Margaret, you begin to say.

You heard her having a conversation with Elizabeth this morning, when they were both alone in the servants' quarters before breakfast.

Margaret's eyes widen in shock.

But, only for a moment before she hardens her face.

"I'm… not sure I understand you, Your Majesty."

…You'll be a little more clear, then.

You tell her you were personally at the door. You weren't there with the intent of spying, but to check up with the head maid to make sure no corners were being cut when it came to preparations for the accommodations you're showing your guests to the Summer Faire.

Though you couldn't help overhearing their talk afterward when the other maids had cleared out and Elizabeth and Margaret were alone.

About how Elizabeth isn't contributing to the Faire preparations, and making herself a target.

Moreover that Margaret was comparing her to a mere… whore.


Margaret keeps her face blank, the edges of her mouth twitching.

You haven't summoned her to punish her, you go on to say. You don't think for a moment you can control what every last person in the castle says or thinks.

You wish you hadn't ended up eavesdropping, but you can't take it back now. For what it's worth, you apologize for that.

Elizabeth obviously has a problem.

You're willing to use your royal influence to help.

You just want to have an open discussion with Margaret about solutions… nothing else.


Margaret's eyes look disconsolate and downcast. She gives out the gentlest bit of a sigh. Then she speaks.

"All right. What do you propose, Your Majesty?" she asks, evenly.

Good. You knew it was a bit rushing it to be so blunt… but Margaret is smart.

She can handle moving past the emotions of the moment to get to the real problem.

Now then…

You did have a few ideas in mind for how to solve Elizabeth's problem. The walk up the tower gave you plenty of time to think.

Margaret will be able to give you insight on what is most realistic.

Or maybe you can jog her own mental processes and she'll come up with something.

Choice time:
>The problem is Elizabeth may be targeted by other maids. Tell Margaret that if she's willing to name names, you'll see that the maids who are most a threat to Elizabeth are moved in their duties so they don't deal with her. –Or at least warned to knock it off.
>Elizabeth needs her own space. Offer to move her from the servants' quarters to take Daniella's old room. It's unpleasant, but it will save her from anyone putting 'a snake in her bed'.
>Elizabeth feels she can neglect duties Tharja doesn't give her. You can't take her position as Tharja's personal maid away and put her back in the hierarchy without opening Elizabeth up to abuse, but perhaps Elizabeth can still pitch in? Offer to ask Tharja to personally order Elizabeth to help out in the preparations. Then Elizabeth will still contribute, and the other maids will be satisfied she's carrying her weight.
>Margaret needs to be able to keep a close eye on Elizabeth. Offer to make Elizabeth an official 'assistant' for when Margaret teaches the new recruits. Margaret can keep an eye on her, then.
>Actually… you want to hear Margaret propose her own idea before you make your own.
>Something else. (Write-in.)

98cb3 No.34022

I'm gonna go with Option Three. If the other maids see that Elizabeth is still doing work, maybe they'll back off a bit. Might also need to explain to Elizabeth why this is happening, that she's not being punished, but explain it in a way so that she doesn't go off talking about the whats and whys.

Plus, given the options, I think this is the one Margaret would approve the most. Giving Liz MORE special treatment will probably only exacerbate the situation.

89d19 No.34024

I'm going to agree here. Option 3 sounds best, and I think Margaret will pipe in if she has a better idea after our proposal.

84c03 No.34026

Option 3

I was hoping that Margaret might offer a suggestion first, but we're on the spot right now

c901d No.34030

Option 3

4a551 No.34034

While Option 3 seems the easiest route, I do wonder what Margaret's opinion on the situation is.

I'm for a mix of Options 5 and 3 (hear if Margaret has any ideas, if not then Option 3)

c6f8b No.34038

Unless Margaret has a better idea to present, I say option 3. Though we can ask her to let us know if Elizabeth does receive abuse from the other maids.

54c2e No.34040

Option 3

15760 No.34041

Option 3.

ee938 No.34056

>7 votes for option three, ask Tharja to order Elizabeth to contribute.
>1 vote for a write-in of asking Margaret for her opinion, then suggesting Tharja order Elizabeth to contribute. (Close enough to option 3.)

Propose Tharja personally order Elizabeth to help the other maids with the preparations for the Faire.

It seems to you the real problem is Elizabeth feels she has the right to be lazy.

You can't detach her from being Tharja's personal maid… that would devastate Elizabeth and expose her to the same bullying you tried to protect her from in the first place.

However, the solution is simple.

Tharja will just order her to help the other maids in the preparations.

Then the maids will be satisfied she's pulling her weight, and Elizabeth's feelings and position will still be spared.


Margaret waits patiently as you speak, her face betraying no emotion except a slight moment her lips part when you mention 'bullying'. They quickly shut again and she remains calm throughout the rest.

What does Margaret think of your idea, you ask?

"… It is a fine idea that won't work, Your Majesty."


Margaret's eyes become downcast again.

"My sister has always been… scatterbrained. She easily forgets what to do, or needs to be reminded how to do simple things. We are both still new to the castle… especially compared to the other maids here. We are still in the process of learning how things are done."

–You can't argue with any of that. Elizabeth is a little slow-witted. Moreover, it would be at least two decades before Margaret and Elizabeth had experience approaching any of the older maids.

"She will likely make a mistake. When that happens, no one will have the power to correct her… unless Her Highness was to be in the same room overseeing her at the time."

… That would be asking too much. You can't expect Tharja to waste all her time doing that. Or that she would appreciate being disturbed when Elizabeth did mess up.

"Furthermore, Your Majesty… you will not know this, but to be a maid isn't something one simply learns. One has to be committed to it, every single day. Being a maid is knowing you will wake up, serve food, dust the rooms, scrub the floors, polish the stone and wood, clean the linen, wash the laundry, do the ironing, mend the clothes, shine the shoes…"

She closes her eyes.

"Day… after day… after day…"

Normally you would cut off any servant who would dared complain about their duties.

But it's clear by Margaret's tone she doesn't mean it as a complaint. She's honestly telling you what it's like to be a mere servant.

…You can't help but feel fortunate for your noble birth.

Margaret pauses, then opens her eyes and continues.

"Elizabeth has not had to do that. And she has not had to do that for some while. She does little but eat, sleep, carry your dishes, and bathe with Her Highness."

There's a slight hesitation before she goes on.

"She has forgotten the pains of a servant's work, Your Majesty. The sting of scrubbing one's hands until they feel raw, for example."

You admit, you noticed that. Elizabeth's hands still weren't near the level of unspoiled softness of Tharja's or Beatrice's, but they were certainly… daintier. She was a little fatter too, but that was to be expected with her pregnancy.

You sigh and tell her she doesn't need to say any more.

Margaret is right.

It's not going to be that simple.

You can understand, in some small way, why Margaret called Elizabeth your… whore.

You've gotten her too used to having sex instead of working. Even maids you impregnated back in Virilia didn't have as much sex with you as Elizabeth does. Though to be fair, the pool of fertile maids to draw from was much larger back then.

Being around Tharja no doubt helped exacerbate that problem, with her encouragement of her submission to you.


Was that unfixable?

Perhaps there was still a way to undo it.

Choice time:
>Elizabeth is your 'slave'. If you order her to work earnestly as a maid, she will. –Tell Margaret you will directly order Elizabeth to work hard. You can leave out the 'slave' part.
>There must be jobs the maids are neglecting in favor of preparing the castle. If Elizabeth is working on tasks without anyone around, she won't have to worry about the other maids punishing her for making a mistake. She can reacquaint herself to servant-life that way.
>It might be impossible to make Elizabeth work like a 'normal' maid again, but you still want to protect her. Shift the conversation to focus on finding ways to ensure that Elizabeth is protected.
>Elizabeth can't have simply forgotten how to be a maid. Press the issue with Margaret and suggest Elizabeth needs to be re-trained with the twins if that's the case.
>Something else. (Write-in.)

98cb3 No.34061

Combo of two and four, if possible. It sounds like Elizabeth could use the retraining, but keeping her out of the way of the other maids while doing that would probably be for the best.

ee938 No.34066

Hey everyone, I realize this is a conversation so it's reasonable to think Edward can bring up multiple solutions and it's not too realistic to say "one choice makes it impossible to do the others," but let's try not to do write-ins that are "Do both option 1 and 2." It makes it potentially hard to count votes, since if I count it as a vote for both 1 and 2, then that's effectively giving someone two votes. That, or I literally count it only as a vote for "1 and 2," and then it's effectively taking away a vote because unless everyone jumps on with that option and doesn't pick up on it, I have to count it as a unique vote that isn't "1" or "2."

It's all right to say "option 1 with shades of option 2, if possible," because then I can count it definitely as option 1.

Please continue to vote.

3156f No.34072

Option 2, and ask Margaret if she thinks that will be sufficient.

e7137 No.34088


Option 2.

07e6d No.34089

Option 4, but maybe with more privacy?

I'm worried that Elizabeth will mess up the tasks that she's given for option 2 and create more work and more resentment against her

98cb3 No.34159

That's fair. Let's go with option 4, but with as much privacy as we can get, like >>34089 said.

89d19 No.34171

Option 4.

c2f55 No.34191

if it is plausible for this choice, something of a compromise between choices 2 and 4, caveated by something like Margaret perhaps having semi-regular scheduled meetings with Tharja to discuss how better to acclimate Elizabeth to her proper role in the castle at large? Aha, punnery.

ee938 No.34298

>2 votes for option two, propose letting Elizabeth work on tasks by herself and return to doing regular duties that way.
>3 votes for option four, Elizabeth can't have forgotten everything. Propose having Elizabeth learn with the twin maids Margaret is teaching, then, if that's really the case. With notes to try to make it more private at least so as not to draw attention to it.
>1 vote for a combination of option of Elizabeth doing certain tasks privately, with some training with the twin maids mixed in, and private suggestions to Tharja on how she should guide Elizabeth's duties.

Push the issue if Elizabeth has really 'forgotten' how to be a maid, and how Margaret might make a good teacher for her then.

Poll closed. Update soon.

ee938 No.34308

You have two issues, you say to Margaret.

One, you sincerely doubt Elizabeth has simply 'forgotten' how to be a maid.

She is scatterbrained, but they're both professional enough King Vlad had them sent to the castle, after all.


Margaret makes no move to reply, so you continue.


If she really has deteriorated to that level, then it sounds like Margaret could stand to instruct her, like she has with the twin maids.

You remember seeing Elizabeth working with the maids once while Margaret was teaching them, long ago. In a room that wasn't normally being actively cleaned, away from the eyes of the other maids.

That would spare Elizabeth any humiliation and let Margaret re-acclimate her to work.

The solution really can't be more complicated than that.


Margaret keeps her face steady, but you see the faintest hint of her nostrils flaring.

She's either angry at your suggestion, or…

Possibly, sad?

"…Your Majesty heard this morning's talk between myself and my sister?" she asks. Her tone doesn't betray her emotion.

You nod. You already said that you did.

Margaret nods.

"Then Your Majesty should be aware my sister is not in the right state of mind to listen to me anymore," she says. "Therefore, any attempt by me to teach her anything will amount to nothing."


She did say something like 'I don't need you to tell me what to do'.

You suppose that might be a sign that having Margaret directly teach her would be… difficult.

"Furthermore, Lyla and Dahlia have both completed all the necessary training to act as maids. I am no longer 'instructing' them, simply directing them so they stay organized during the preparations."

–Who, you blurt out?

…Then, it occurs to you: those must be the names of the twin maids.

Margaret hesitates slightly before giving a nod.

You wonder which is the older one. You think of asking Margaret, before remembering they're twins and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

Besides that, you can't help but sigh.

You ask Margaret straight out.

What does she think can be done to make Elizabeth a proper maid again? Or at least act enough like one?


Margaret avoids your eyes, hesitating. There's a long pause before she answers.

"I don't think anything can be done… Your Majesty," she says.

… Ugh.

She expected you to do nothing? This was a complete waste of time?

This meeting was turning out much more difficult than you anticipated.

Though you suppose that if there was some simple solution, Margaret would have done it already.

You wanted to think your influence could have an effect.

Especially considering your special relationship with Elizabeth.

You stand silently, hoping Margaret will at least think it over a little more.

…Is that it, you ask?

Margaret nods.

"That's it, Your Majesty."

Choice time:
>Fine. You wash your hands of the situation. Still, and perhaps Margaret can subtly spread this around the other maids: if something happens to Elizabeth, make it clear you will be very, very displeased.
>Margaret's being defeatist. Inform her you don't need her help. You'll do something on your own.
>Cheer her up and try to encourage her.

c6f8b No.34319

Such are the consequences of us favoring Elizabeth. And what will she think when other bellies eventually start to swell? *sigh* No easy answers indeed.

Still, let's encourage Margaret.

c2f55 No.34321

As the above poster said, Option 3. Also, echoing the sentiments of these maids have ended up being far more trouble than they're worth, and on obvious dramatic time-sink, but anyhow…enough venting.

89d19 No.34337

Option 3.

95779 No.34338


Option 3

0d1b6 No.34349

Option 3

84c03 No.34350

Option 3

bab8a No.34355

option 3

4d620 No.34398


Option 3

54944 No.34514

>8 votes for option three, try to cheer Margaret up and try to encourage her.

Cheer Margaret up.

Poll closed. Update soon.

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