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475eb No.10693[Last 50 Posts]

Apologies for the hiatus. Something came up that I knew would prevent me from working on the story with my full attention, so I had to step away. It is complete, so I can return to focusing on daily updates. Aiming for them, at least.

The old chat thread finally hit its limit after just a few months shy of five years. In its place I place this new chat thread.

This thread is meant not only to talk about the story, but also to write about what you'd like to see in the story. Writing about the pros and cons of certain choices is very appropriate. As are any emotional feelings you would like to make known.

I will check this thread to answer any concerns and address opinions as necessary, if wanted. I also want everyone to feel this is their "own space," to talk freely.

Thank you. As always, I hope the story is enjoyable.

475eb No.10694

Incidentally, if you want to find out when I update the story without checking pregchan, I will usually announce it on my deviant art account. I am "aristocrat-mae". There is not much there in terms of content, nor do I really plan to use it for anything beyond updates. I at least will make an update that says there is a choice available if the latest update has choice.

8b3cd No.10698

Thanks for putting up a new thread Aristo. These threads may not get much action, but they're helpful to have.

0e336 No.10699

Basically, chat here to keep the actual story threads packed with actual content… or at least, that's what I try to do. Haven't always managed it.

475eb No.10700

I forgot to actually tally the vote in the thread, but it was unanimous anyway so I'm not going to delete and re-post.

>>10699
Basically. I do like it when people share their reasons for voting because I think it helps others make their own conclusions and it helps me judge expectations. But the downside is that the more posts that get attached to the story thread, the quicker we have to make a new one.

I have to wonder how intimidating seeing the list for backlog links looks to potential new readers. I'm sure it must be. To account to their needs, and also ease the obligation of summarizing, it's better to have a chat thread.

But by all means, please do use your one vote. Never think something simple like comment count means it's better not to vote at all. Even if your choice is winning.

0e336 No.10701

Well, making good arguments is important, but commenting on every story section, even when there's no vote to tally?

475eb No.10705

>>10701
Intermediate comments also help very much. Though I'll encourage the use of the chat thread.

475eb No.10710

I could close the current vote now, but I'm going to give it a little more time as it's close and I know I don't have the capacity to write a full treatment of the scene yet. Please vote if you haven't already done so and wish to do so.

0e336 No.10714

From what I know of Camilla in her source game, she's not so much "submissive" as "likes to play a little rough."

bf74b No.10715

>>10714
[hums "I Like it Rough" by Lady GaGa]

475eb No.10717

Hello everyone.

I wanted to run an idea past everyone.

Recently I was inspired.

One thing I often hear in the votes of Impregnator Kings is "I don't want to make Edward out to be a bad guy," and "I think this choice is most in character for him to do so I must vote it."

My philosophy is that if when I offer specific choices, it is in character for Edward to do any option presented. If it's not in character but seems an obvious thing to do, I will rule it out and say why in the text. But, that is not a problem. People should vote for what story they want to see. Cohesive character development and how they want to have the main character make choices that "feel right" to them personally is part of it. This game is meant for everyone and I sincerely hope everyone will enjoy it. Even if sometimes a vote doesn't go a person's way.

Yet, with that in mind, I wondered "What sort of game would make choices less about choosing what type of character to play?"

And I had an idea.

What about a game where you weren't making choice on behalf of the character, you were making choices on behalf of whatever "urges" that are suddenly inflicted on the character?

Soon I had what I thought was the basics of a more "fantasy" than historical setting. It'd go something like this:

Person A (a character of the audience's choosing) stumbles upon Ancient Artifact which suddenly has a reaction to them. They continue to go about their day but suddenly find themselves changing. Not necessarily physically, but with desires and motivations they didn't have before. With a female character this could be a maternal instinct or impulse to get knocked up. Similarly for a male, a desire to impregnate, etc.

So in this case, the audience is directing a sort of lowkey psychological influence or "mind control" on the character, and the characters are not meant to be the audience. The audience isn't the character, but it can direct what the character is pulled to do. Switching between characters would even be possible when things grow stale.

I thought: "This might be another good project to work on as a sort of 'blowing off steam' quest." Disconnected from the Impregnator Kings storyline and being more focused on straightforward kink-satisfaction. Much more fantasy than medieval(ish).

The question is: would this appeal to anyone?

I'm thinking I could make this entirely text based and keep it in /c/, or put it in /b/ if I think it could benefit from images, but I'd like to know.

So…

Choice time:
>I would be interested in reading a story with this premise.
>I wouldn't be interested. It sounds confusing, unsatisfying, or just wouldn't mesh with my personal kinks.
>I might be interested, but I don't want your attention divided from Impregnator Kings (and potentially Impregnated Princess).
>I like the idea, but I'd prefer a non-fantasy setting. (Modern day, sci-fi, etc.)

Anyway, thank you very much for reading this much and considering my idea.

And a Happy New Year soon to everyone!

bf2a3 No.10718

>>10717
Both option 1 and 3 honestly.

The premise is incredibly interested, we sort of control the ancient artifact (if I'm reading this right), which then controls the character.

Would this be in 1st person still? Or would we be seeing this from a limited 3rd person view?

475eb No.10719

>>10718
In a way. The audience would representing an undefined force with an influence on a character that would vary from gentle urging to compulsion. Votes would be what kind of urging and to what degree. Something simple and wholesome like "She has the urge to smile kindly at the child and act maternal toward it." or "Even if she didn't usually do it, she told the man she was having sex with that it was okay to finish inside her." or "She found her mouth blurting out the words 'Breed me!' Her fingers gripping her skirt to lift it up and present her wet pussy." Etc.

It wouldn't be like Impregnator Kings. Impregnator Kings uses a sort of second-person where Edward is the "You" of the story. I never write "I say," for Edward, and his dialogue is not put in quotation marks. This is me attempting to make it feel more natural that the reader is readily accepting what they read is what Edward experiences. They're not reading a viewpoint through Edward's eyes, they are Edward's eyes. Or at least, seeing the world through the lens he imagines himself to see through. (The world isn't always what one individual thinks it is, after all.)

That said, I'm not sure, at the moment, if it'd be more efficient to use first person or third person omniscient. I do want the reader, in this hypothetical game, to not feel as if they are the character being acted on, but rather that they're giving the character urges from without. That could be better suited for third person, but first person could also convey psychological effects easier, so that's something I would need to carefully consider.

475eb No.10720

>>10718
I thought about it again.

I guess the approach to this game would be similar to Hazumi and the Pregnation, which I had the chance to play.

You, the player, guide Hazumi. You decide what she does. But Hazumi has her own motives and her own individual outlook on things. She doesn't really want to be pregnant. The idea scares her. This is clear from the beginning.

However, what sense does it make that Hazumi then waits until she has a dangerous day, then has sex with a guy who cums a lot? Then she leaves the cum all in her vagina. Then takes nothing but hot baths so the fertilized egg will implant? She would surely not do those things, but the player wants her to get pregnant and so she will do those things.

Sort of like that, but more subtle and more fitting to a CYOA game.

7460c No.10721

>>10717
1&4 im definitely interested. I'm okay with a fantasy setting, but I think a Sci-Fi setting could also be very interesting and potentially more so than fantasy. In a fantasy story it's often too easy to have "magic" be the answer to everything, in sci fi it's often more challenging to make the "magic", i.e. the fictional science, work with the story. If written well, the universe and its rules become an adversary in and of itself.

573e5 No.10725

3

Unless this helps you channel your creative energies across the board, then by all means.

Maybe it's just a little bias from the fact IK has been an investment and an enjoyment for many years on now, granted.

5c8cf No.10726

Option 3.

I like it, it has a very Disco Elysium vibe in concept, but I'm so invested in Impregnator Kings at this point, I wouldn't want to see it miss out.

Not to mention, we still haven't seen the, *ahem*, "fruits" of our labor in IK yet and I very much want to get there.

5c8cf No.10728

So, thinking ahead to time skips.

What do people think of off-screen impregnations?

Obviously not for any of the major or named characters, but what if some of the rando maids or soldiers that Edward encounters at points in the story were pregnant?

I think this would go a long way to helping it feel like Ed is still "in action" without dedicating more effort and time to explicit actions and things didn't feel like they stopped after a time skip.

Just a thought I had tonight and thought I'd share.

475eb No.10729

>>10728
This general idea will happen. Eventually time-skips will get longer. Seasons instead of days or weeks.

08ab5 No.10760

>>10717
Gonna lean toward 3. It sounds rather neat, but I wouldn't want to see Impregnator Kings or Impregnated Princess suffer for it. As for which board, I think /c/ would be fine- assuming you don't find a bevy of images you'd like to use with the quest.

475eb No.10761

>>10760
Sorry. I put it up already here: >>10736

I won't get to the planned update tonight. Apologies. It's not related to the new project. I'll have it up tomorrow.

475eb No.10775

The 4th thread in the archive, from bbw-chan, seems to be down entirely.

I'm not sure if this is temporary or permanent.

I recall one of the issues with this thread was it had a pop-up flash ad. Now that flash is dead, it might be related.

In which case, we'll see if it comes back.

If not, I may have to transfer the text from my archives to the chat board here.

(Though thank you to any readers who posted their own links to their personal archives.)

475eb No.10776

>>10775
Never mind, it works fine now.

84463 No.10810

Do you have a link to the princess story? I can’t find it to save my life.

ed7c6 No.10826

It's oddly nice of Beatrice to assure Edward that Camilla didn't hurt Tharja's feelings. She's a faceted woman, but not necessarily nice, so it's interesting to see.

475eb No.10843


e4a63 No.11247

Bumping this up since no one apparently looks beyond the first page of /c/

We're heading into the jousting tournament. Wish we could have learned more about the Emerald Knight, but I still do have a theory or two. Guess we'll see what happens.

0e336 No.11248

Long as no one takes a lance to the eye, we're good.

0e336 No.11249

Also, I can't decide on the choice in the genderswap spinoff. Could someone vote and make an argument for their choice, please?

0e336 No.11250

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_II_of_France

https://www.tudorsociety.com/henry-viiis-1524-jousting-accident-sarah-bryson/

Since people don't seem to understand where I'm coming from. I'm not suggesting we cheat to win, I'm suggesting we cheat so Edward isn't killed or left with life-altering injuries in the very real event of an accident or foul. And suggesting further that this be his last tournament. It's a calculated risk participating in this one, but I get that he needs to show he's able to keep up with the more meatheaded of his nobles. But Bad Things happening will result in problems that we have no contingencies for.

And honestly, I'm not looking for much. A bit of reinforcement to keep lances and their bits outside the armor, a small charm keeping things from getting through visors and joints. Could even have it subtly applied to everything, if you must insist on fairness. It's not REALLY a cheat so much as insurance in a time before kevlar and safety glasses.

475eb No.11256

Should have been "It's with a heavy heart," and "flouted social norms." Apologies, I was tired.

475eb No.11257

>>11249
To be clear, this choice is similar to the choice in the main story of "Do you love Tharja?" Only it is not so intense to be called 'love' and only 'fondness'. Time progression is going to be faster in Impregnated Princess than in Impregnator Kings. The choice here is "Do the players want to build a lowkey romance between Beatrice and Edwys over the time advance that is coming, or do they want Edwys to only think of Beatrice as their midwife, nothing more?"

I'll close that vote tomorrow as the side-story doesn't get as many votes as the main story.

60d0a No.11261

Do you think it’s possible if we could have some sort of descriptive roadmap on what we can expect in incoming updates for Impregnator Kings? Like a hint of what to look forward to in the near future or maybe an occasional treat for having us remain this invested for so long?

I appreciate Aristo for really pushing through all these years with the CYOA but I can’t help but feel that we have not yet felt the full fruits of our labor(interacting with a woman or women who is fully pregnant, the lovemaking, birth, etc ). My fear is it could be too long before we reach that point, as it’s been 4+ years since this CYOA began. But I will also say that I understand why.

I recall you used to do a few of these scenes in the form of plays(Beatrice having Edward close his eyes to feel her illusionary pregnant belly) or even the dream sequence where Tharja gave birth. Personally, I enjoyed those little things because those made people like me look forward to those realities fully realized someday.

But I digress as this is just my opinion, so even if the pacing stays at is I shall still continue to faithfully participate in your stories, because at the end of the day - I still deeply admire your work and efforts to keep this one running.

Thank you for everything, Aristo.

475eb No.11268

>>11261
To sum it up in one word: payoff.

There's been a lot of choices between here and now. Ones that stretch as far back as thread 4. We will see all of them play out, and all of the women Edward has impregnated fill out. This is my fetish too. Believe me when I say we will get to them and all the waiting and in-between will feel like huge payoff. In terms of Edward exerting his will, and the pregnancies.

I also mentioned this before, but after the Faire ends, the pacing will pick up. We won't have decisions for every day. Time will pass quicker.

The Faire will end after all three events:
1. The Joust
2. The Church Service
3. The aristocrat entertainment.

In that order. The joust is an in-setting "tomorrow," as of now.

Apologies for lack of belly-play in the meanwhile. I was considering bringing in pregnant women who have been impregnated by someone who isn't Edward, or dream sequences, but my past experience has been that these are considered more of a "tease" than a satisfaction. My impression has been the reader wants women to be impregnated by their character, and for the women to only be focused on his attention. I didn't want to alienate the reader with "And the protagonist isn't the father, it's some other guy who she's married to," or "it was all a dream and nothing really happened." But, there is certainly time left for me to do either of these if it is really wanted. Because this is our story, not just mine. You're writing it with me.

Let me know.

475eb No.11294

Not to press the point, but this chat thread exists for reactions and discussing overall strategy here. Using it instead of the main thread of Impregnator Kings will cut down on the comment count and prolong the life of the thread before making a new one is needed.

Of course, please do use the main thread for explaining voting, discussions considering choices, and what you'd expect and like to see. Such things help me very much.

That said, don't be afraid to use this thread.

60d0a No.11295

>>11294

Thank you, Aristo. Took me a while to find this thread. I shall reserve my thoughts on this thread instead.

50354 No.11296

So some thoughts on the last update, especially the "need it for my spells" bit. I see one of five options.

1. She's a witch and has disguised or hidden her book. This seems unlikely based on what we've seen of witches so far, but it's possible.

2. She's just a crazy who thinks she's casting spells.

3. She's an herbalist or something of the sort who calls the tinctures and 'potions' she crafts spells. Alternatively it's peasant superstition.

4. She's not a witch, but some other kind of spellcaster. We don't have precedent for this, but in a world with witches, who's to say there aren't other types of magical practitioners?

5. She's a supernatural creature of some sort. Same logic as #4.

Honestly, anything aside from maybe 2 or 3 is probably bad news for us. Regardless, we need to be careful how we respond- if we immediately react like "oh no witch don't curse me to be sterile again" and she's NOT actually able to do anything, chances are we're showing our hand on our supernatural knowledge. But if she CAN do magic, best not to get on her bad side, especially now that she's got a sample. Plenty of fiction about what a caster can do with a biological sample.

a858e No.11297

Another late thought…
When Beatrice forgot to butterfly herself the other day… yes, it was just a fluke out-of-story, but it can also be interpreted inside the story, because we know of another event when Beatrice made a mistake in her disguise after fucking Edward; it was when Edward asked her to have sex with "just Beatrice" and she became somewhat emotional, even calling him "Edward" instead of "King". Inside the story, we could interpret this second slip-up as a sign that Beatrice is developing deeper feelings for Edward. Maybe that is also the reason she's still not confirmed pregnant after so much sex? Maybe she subconsciously uses magic to prevent herself from becoming pregnant (and thus even more attached to Edward) as long as she hasn't properly dealt with her feelings?

60d0a No.11298

>>11297

That's alot to take in. But that theory does have some ground to it.

8e62f No.11300

Question for aristo/anyone who has followed the story more intensely than I - how 'Christian' is the church in this world like? Can we request absolute privacy regarding a discussion with a priest? I don't know if this has ever come up, and if you can't answer for story reasons, please let me know.

475eb No.11301

>>11300
The Church is basically christianity in all but name. Specific parts of it are removed to make it more universal. (Not using Christ's name, etc.) But the Church has a Pope, Archbishops, etc. The Church has a lot of influence, both in actual power and over the hearts and minds of the people. Church teachings uphold and legitimize aristocratic rule, which is vital to the medieval(ish) setting.

A confession is absolutely supposed to be completely private. But discussing other matters about the country and such may or may not be. It has been mentioned the priest has had attendants in the room when he's met with Edward since the Faire began.

0e336 No.11306

Well, don't conflate "Christianity" with Roman Catholicism, which this church definitely takes most of its flavoring from. Particularly the Roman Catholic Church of the late middle ages, when they were basically uncontested as the authority above authorities in Western Europe. Lots of pomp, lots of influence… lots of corruption.

475eb No.11307

>>11306
Please don't take this story as any sort of commentary on a real-world religion or a slight against any. That is not and is never intended. It merely is meant to be a medieval(ish) era with a vague resemblance to the real world. It is as you say, with the Church being uncontested as the main 'authority'. This story in no way purports to take the favor of any one real-world religion. That's not my business.

This medieval(ish) era would be in a time long before any sort of movement similar to the protestant reformation that would threaten the Church's supremacy would be appropriate including. For example we hear how the nomads are considered by the Church to be borderline heretical (at best), but the nomads themselves tell Edward they believe and follow the "Church's teachings." Other 'heresies' that would be appropriate to the time-frame may or may not exist in the world, but Edward may or may not deal with them in the course of ruling Ruhemania either. As for other wives and other countries… that I won't say.

0e336 No.11308

It's fine, I get it. Sorry if I came off as confrontational.

475eb No.11309

>>11306
It's all right. I'm sorry also if my words sounded disrespectful. When I said "The Church is basically christianity," I was talking completely within a historical context of the real medieval ages, where Catholicism was the authority. I could have been more precise there.

0e336 No.11310

It's fair. Of course, even catholicism wasn't entirely monolithic. Beyond the Eastern Orthodox church and Islam, there were several schisms and theologic confrontations during the middle ages. It's all rather interesting to read up on, actually. Though the stance in witchcraft we're dicussing was the most likely general policy taken by most religious institutions of the time.

b7241 No.11312

Is anyone else starting to wonder if wedding Ricardo and Camilla was a mistake?

Out of all four siblings Camilla was most committed to their parents' plot. She wants personal power and status, and having a bastard child with a claim to the throne was a route to getting that, however remote, long-term and kind of stupid. That plot's failed, awesome, high five.

But once she marries Ricardo, Camilla is actually closer to power than she ever was before. All that has to happen is for Edward and/or Tharja to die without an heir and she will instantly become Queen of Ruhemania. Her husband doesn't really want to rule, and may well die before any child is of age, so she could be running the show for decades, first 'advising' her husband, then openly as Queen Regent.

While I know assassination of Ed and his family is easier said than done, it's a much more workable scheme than the last one. I'm not sure it was such a hot idea to put a smart girl like Camilla in a tempting position where one little 'accident' wins her the whole game. She doesn't know that we have magical safeguards but even a failed plot could cause a lot of problems - e.g. Tharja surviving something she couldn't possibly survive in front of witnesses.

cf18e No.11313

>>11312

You’re forgetting that we have the support of Beatrice and the witches. If there were any schemes targeted at Edward or Tharja we’d know.

Although, it does help to do some investigation to see where the true loyalties of the siblings lie…

475eb No.11314

Interesting bit of trivia. The vote to decide to hold a jousting tournament at the Faire was closed September 3rd, 2016. The payoff for this choice has taken over four years.

573e5 No.11319

is it a tad overbearing and-or cliche to float the idea that Edward would potentially reward a knighthood to all the participants in the tournament, regardless of the final outcome? the champion's reward could be more specific and grandiose, but given the leeway he has to play with regarding Ruhemania's former lack of knights, this could be the start of his own "Round Table" of sorts, pardon the associated punnery.

475eb No.11321

>>11319
This is an issue Edward can literally decide whatever he likes and Knight whoever he likes. And you're free to use this idea as a write-in. But you might want to consider at this moment that the tournament is anonymous. He may end up knighting someone unsavory he really wouldn't want as a knight representing his crown. It might include soldiers who are more loyal to King Vlad than him, for example. Not to mention it's very public and would give the knight much publicity.

0e336 No.11322

This time around, I'm thinking we should keep it to one "winner." Unmasking the Emerald Knight in public will also let us calculate what kind of trouble he is.

573e5 No.11323

Noted and signed, thanks for addressing that quandary post-haste as well.

60d0a No.11325

>>11319

A few expectant female knights won't hurt either..

d20f3 No.11328

While I like the idea of getting some female knights, I do feel a little disappointed in the Emerald Knight's identity. I was kinda hoping a woman managed to sneak into the tournament

0e336 No.11333

This isn't altogether a bad thing. We can put him somewhere where we can keep an eye on his arrogant ass, then make sure he's too busy to cause trouble.

573e5 No.11334

if nothing else, this might be an unexpected boon in terms of Robin getting those shock troops she's pining after, in terms of knights fitting the niche, especially knights customized to Ruhemania's harsh environmental climes and conditions.

0e336 No.11335

Though we'll have to find some ways to keep the hotter heads too occupied to be stupid. Almost a pity we've got no wars to throw Dimitrie and his like at.

4ad95 No.11336

>>11335

Not a problem as the main point we finally have a legitimate pawn that we can use or sacrifice for Edward’s goals. As the saying goes, ‘keep your friends close and your enemies closer.’

475eb No.11348

The vote is close. I will give it a little longer.

Please also consider the side-story's vote if you have any interest.

0e336 No.11349

I would, but I've already cast my vote and given my reasoning.

0e336 No.11354

A *little* performance won't hurt, this just isn't the time or place. As pointed out, we don't have any security on hand to keep things under control, and as I noted, handing out gold to the unwashed masses (who are more likely to be trading in fragments of coppers, if not simply bartering) would likely be overmuch.

So yes, I want to see alms for the poor. But we need to set that up with our financial and spiritual advisors so it actually works out.

592a3 No.11356

I started reading this series sometime around the beginning of this year and just now got caught up. Just wanted to say thanks for the good reads, it's been fun following the story. Looking forward to finally voting now.

475eb No.11357

>>11356
This is really heartening to hear. All the time I am writing, I am thinking "Are the past parts of the story accessible enough that people still want to read them?" To hear you read and caught up on it all is a great encouragement.

I hope it's worthwhile for you.

3c796 No.11358

>>11357
It has been so far!
Story seems accessible enough to me. At first I was going to suggest compiling previous threads into a living pastebin but I think the character art helps a lot with visualization.

475eb No.11359

>>11358
This is true. At one point it was done so by a dedicated player, at a time when pregchan died and everyone was on bbw-chan and we really thought pregchan was gone, including the first three threads. Unfortunately just taking all the text and dumping it on pastebin or something similar makes it a little strange. (The individual audience comments need to be edited. How do you deal with the choices? etc.) That, and the sexual content would violate the terms of service, leaving it open to be removed at any time.

There is a g-doc someone maintains that has the original files of all the visuals, but I don't have a link handy and I didn't create it. At any rate, they're not too hard to hunt down. It is good that the internet archive is reliable.

More coming soon. We will eventually reach a new game+ and a new bride, if I am able and there is interest.

6ed46 No.11360

>>11359

Heavily looking forward to that. Tbh your CYOA thread is the only reason I still lurk on this site. I've really enjoyed tuning into your stories and I shall continue to remain invested in this until it's truly over.

d9d6e No.11361

>>11359
>>11360
I also am looking forward to new game+ and the CYOAs are the main reason I come to this site. And since you're really the only active anymore, I applaud your dedication.

Speaking of: I am the said dedicated player. I still copy/paste posts, votes, and results into a word doc and save the pics. I suppose I could upload the zips of those folders to google drive or something.

2797b No.11363

I have an idea… I'd really like to know what clever solution Robin would come up with to keep discipline in the army when the King's not around, but I don't think she can be trusted to analyse the problem as a disinterested, neutral party.

Buuut we have a similar problem we could give as an exercise to our master tactician: Long ago, we formulated the plan to replace the fat maid at the top of the maid hierarchy with the much more competent Margaret. We face a similar challenge there: It's really not possible to have a group of people trust and follow a new leader by decree. So the exercise question would be: What can be done to speed up the process of trust-earning so that the maids/soldiers will quickly accept a new leader they never would have chosen themselves?

Admittedly, not a perfectly analogy because the option of outright rebellion isn't on the table for the maids, but quitting is. And we'd have a big problem replacing all of them at once if it came to that.

0e336 No.11364

The main issue is that your military's divided between those loyal to King Vlad and those loyal to Edward. The old guard will never be loyal to Edward, simply because he's not the man they swore fealty to.

Which is why, after the tournament, I strongly suggest we have the old guard retired with honors, then scattered across the land to train peasant militia forces and serve as crown sherrifs… or something.

I honestly don't know. The point would be to break them up, spread them out, keep them too busy to cause strife, and let them feel important while keeping their power at court low.

71ddd No.11365

>>11364
> When you approach, discipline breaks down and soldiers are clamoring around you, congratulating you on your impressive win. Even some of King Vlad's old guard offer you heartfelt congratulations at the prowess you displayed.

I don't think, the Vlad loyalists will never be loyal to Edward. They have had years of service under Vlad and only a few months under Edward and I interpret the passage above as a step in the right direction.
Furthermore, we don't really need them to be loyal to Edward personally like they were to Vlad. If the are loyal to the crown and the kingdom, I'd be happy as well. Long-term that's better anyway, because at some point Edward's heir will take over and he/she shouldn't have the same problem.

0e336 No.11369

A weighty choice this time. I'd argue that just walking away isn't an option. People will notice your disappearance, questions will be raised, long-term problems will arise.

So the real choice comes down to whether we want this to be a focused, clandestine assassination, as with the main story, or wholesale slaughter.

0e336 No.11371

What will poor Edwys's witch name be? I've had a few ideas, but I'm thinking major discussions on the topic should wait until we've dealt with the horrible business at hand.

Might have to give her a few years to get over the initial trauma if we want her to identify with anything that isn't gruesome and tragic, though.

e4a3b No.11372

>>11371
I've had a couple thoughts on this as well, but I agree that we should probably wait until Edwys's vengeance plays out and we decide what to do with/about/to our… Let's say "estranged" husband.

3369f No.11373

>>11372
Speaking of Prince Tharja, who wants to bet the latest Book belonged to his mom?

97d00 No.11374

>>11373
Anything is possible (part of the reason I'd rather talk to Vlad before we send him to his fate), but without further evidence I feel safer assuming that Tharja's mother died to a witch's curse/"miasma" like she did in the main story. I'm very curious as to why he has the book, since everything we've been told in both stories indicates that witch hunters just burn it all. Why would he keep an unattuned book?

573e5 No.11375

food for thought:
has it ever been confirmed or negated that Prince Tharja has a sister-counterpart in the alternative setting? i.e. Lorenzo…Lorenza may be the previous (or current?) owner of the book in question.

97d00 No.11376

>>11375
The thought had occurred to me, yeah. Don't think it's ever come up in the story, though.

0d419 No.11377

>>11375
Now that we have Lorenza (why not Loretta?) confirmed, I have a hypothesis where the book came from : Simon, Daniella's husband, was a witch hunter in the main story, found the book and got caught and killed by Lorenzo witch took it. In the side universe, Lorenza seduced Simon, got pregnant from him and stole the book. If we're unlucky, Simon is still alive and hunting witches.

0d419 No.11378

>>11377
*who took it

97d00 No.11379

>>11377
Not a bad hypothesis at all. Beatrice did indicate that Daniella was the very last witch hunter in Vlad's service… but then it wouldn't be the only time Beatrice has told us something that wasn't entirely true, would it?

6ed46 No.11380

Too bad we won’t get a chance to see the witch hunter route with Edward. I’m curious as to what would Ruhenmania would be if it was against witches.

97d00 No.11382

My God, Aristo. You've done one hell of a job with the spinoff. Either you're absurdly good at speed chess in response to our choices, or you've set a masterful trap. Honestly, my gut instinct, my response to everything we've learned and seen from Beatrice and Vlad… is to burn the book. But I'm also not about to ruin fun for other players just because of what I feel. I'm gonna wait a little bit on this one, see what sort of arguments are made. If we don't take the end, though. I do think we need to kill Vlad here- a mercy killing. If we're not going to take his advice, we need to at least not let Erika keep him as a plaything.

475eb No.11383

>>11382
Thank you very much.

Your comment leaves me sort of conflicted. I do not like to say or do anything even possibly that will influence a vote. Explain things about the story or a character that the main character would know, yes, but that's about it.

But since this is the side-story and not the main story, it's following the same 'cues' which I don't feel so bad about talking about (especially since the main story is so old and they're probably forgotten or weren't experienced by new readers). I do feel the need to point out that this confrontation with Vlad is basically the side-story's equivalent of the conflict with Daniella in the main story.

Meaning, voting for option 1 "Destroy your book and die," is the equivalent of voting "Let Daniella kill you," in thread 3's duel with Daniella. You may want to consider how it'll affect the other characters too.

If it's what people truly vote for and want to read, I will write it, of course. It would've been not living up to the story's premise and choices not to include it, but "bad end" is not a misnomer.

Anyway, apologies. I'm already saying too much. I'm glad the story has evoked such emotion.

b462c No.11384

>>11383

I’m honestly at a loss for words here. Really great job, Aristo.

I’ll reserve my thoughts later, I need to ponder Edwys’ decision heavily.

475eb No.11385

It was asked for in the side-story thread so I'll answer it here: I will talk about what would've happened in the option 1 bad end in the side-story's post-game chat thread, as I will for any choice. This will be where I answer all questions about the game and reveal all secrets as well as what ideas I had for certain choices and directions the game could've gone. (Barring anything that reveals too much about ideas for the main story.)

My policy is "I won't write two sets of stories." Meaning, I write a story for the choice that's chosen. If a choice isn't chosen, I won't write another 'branch' and try to maintain two. But since this is an ending with no other choices, I could make an exception, I think. If there's a large amount of interest, I'll write a full treatment for the option 1 bad end after the side-story concludes. If there's no such interest, I'll still discuss what would've happened.

b4fea No.11386

>>11385

Do you think it's possible to port Edwys into Edward's world as an NPC if her own path ends here?

475eb No.11387

>>11386
I'm sorry. Can you clarify what you mean by this?

b4fea No.11388

>>11387

Basically have Edwys return as another character that appears in Impregnator Kings instead of killing her off in this story(should it end here).

I personally like entertaining the idea of Edwys entering the dimension of Edward’s world but with her original backstory and personality intact(could introduce an interesting plot dynamic with her existence). But that’s just me.

It just feels like a waste if we were to go on this decline. Because she might as well share or have a better ending/fate than the one presented to us at the moment.

357d1 No.11389

Option 2

475eb No.11390

>>11389
I think you may have voted in the wrong thread.

>>11388
I guess I'm still confused. Do you mean the basic concept of Edwys, as a potential bride for Edward, or Edwys as Edwys (Edward, but born as a girl) stepping out of a portal into his room, with them both wondering who the other is, or some such thing?

97d00 No.11391

So having slept on it, here's my thoughts on the current choices (and a blatant attempt to persuade others to my point of view):

Option one: this appealed to me at first as a way to atone for our sins. But eradicating ourself from existence isn't going to wash away the filicide, regicide, and low-level genocide we've set in motion. Further, dying now condemns Vlad to being Erika's plaything and almost certainly condemns Tharja to be killed by Beatrice (or worse)- she knows where he is, she knows he's likely to investigate what happened to Valachia, that he could raise a new cadre of witch hunters if he figures it out- a loose end, regardless of our existence. Killing ourself is the worst fate for everyone involved.

Option two: silencing Vlad without killing him here not only leaves him to be Erika's trinket, it also stands as a rejection of everything he's told us. Thing is, I don't think he's lying. Is he perhaps presenting the truth in a way to convince us to kill ourselves? Sure. But everything he's said carries some truth to it. Letting him live here is also an implicit acceptance of Beatrice and Erika's way of doing things. Which I'm not okay with. Beatrice may not have intended to ruin our life, but by God if she'd done just a little more digging on Vlad's whole "three kids" rule, we probably never would have made the choice to become a witch. And while she's almost certainly right that we could discover magic to do all kinds of lewd and naughty things involving pregnancy, and we could birth countless children… I don't know that we'll ever truly be a mother like we wanted to be. Beatrice let us walk into the decision to become a witch with only part of the story. We have to accept that she wasn't purely looking out for us on this.

Option three: mercy-kill. To me, this choice is all about what's left of Edwys the girl, Edwys who wanted to be a good wife and good mother. Vlad says that the only way to honor that is to kill ourselves, but saving him from Erika's predations and standing up to our witch "sisters" seems like the real way to do that. I'm still not sure what to do about Tharja- I'm inclined to say "claim him as a pet first, just to keep him safe from the other witches", but I dunno how feasible that is for a newborn witch.

b4fea No.11392

>>11390

Aye. Both scenarios. But the perspective would still be on Edward.

4d66a No.11393

>>11392
Oh, Lord. Now I'm thinking about what those character interactions would look like, and depending on if it's Edwys before going to Ruhemania or Edwys after the events of the spin-off, they look VERY different. Pre-spinoff Edwys is just another lady for the harem, if one who would be reticent to not at least be married. Post-spinoff… Edward would have a witch version of himself on his hands who's traumatized beyond all reason. Tharja (being our lovely freak of a wife) would be encouraging us to hook up with her while also elated to have a new witch friend. But Edwys's reactions to the main story characters would be interesting, to say the least. Meeting Beatrice prime would probably be the wildest, though.

ab7c0 No.11394

>>11391
About the pet-thing… the main story made it clear at some point that there is an understanding among the witches that humans cannot be claimed as pets. And if I remember correctly, it's not just one pet either. Beatrice has "goats" claimed as her pet, not a couple of specific goats. No other witch experiments with goats, only Beatrice does. At least that's how I remember it. I'd have to read up on it to be sure. Maybe after work

ab7c0 No.11395

>>11393
And the words "go fuck yourself" would get a whole different meaning ;-)

5eede No.11396

>>11394
I must have missed/forgotten that. The only thing I could remember about pets was that Edward claiming that Patchouli had violated the Pax by interfering with Tharja's pet (i.e. Edward himself) wouldn't fly because Patchy cursed us before we met Tharja.

…side note, if ripping out Vlad's tongue wins (which it seems poised to do, to my disappointment), better hope Beatrice is quick thinking enough and able to cauterize it. Otherwise it's just killing him a different way. :V

b4fea No.11397

>>11393

Precisely, current Edwys is just too valuable of a character not to ignore to insert into our main storyline. Not to mention she's technically a high value character that Edward can impregnate(maybe even give her the life she never had).

One word, multiverse.

26dd2 No.11398

You know, recent events in the Princess thread and past events in the King thread seem to have brought about an interesting case.

Perhaps it should be suggested to the witches that the Pax should be revised, though the bulk of its rules can remain intact. However it clearly did more harm than good as Ruhemania's witches were exterminated, so maybe some emergency provisions could be added to prevent an event like that from occurring again. Also maybe some lesser allowances that might allow Patchy to come visit at some point (gotta see how her bump is coming along)

97d00 No.11399

>>11398
Edwys, Witch of Reform? :P

0e336 No.11400

Knowledge doesn't step outside her library for much. The damn fairies would have it on fire inside of ten minutes. To say nothing of her assistant…

475eb No.11402

>>11394
Humans can and are definitely claimed as pets.

Beatrice makes Tharja swear she doesn't consider Edward a pet.

Edward freaks out when Beatrice suggests Tharja is thinking of the women she helps Edward impregnate (through shaving their crotch) as pets.

Beatrice suggests she could keep Erika away from the castle if the castle peasants are considered her 'pets,' but that would mean she'd honestly have to be using them as pets. (Ie, experimenting with them.)

The option for Edward to try to claim Patchouli had violated the Pax was listed as a GAME OVER but I never confirmed why this would have been a GAME OVER.

19a5c No.11403

>>11402
I stand corrected

97d00 No.11404

>>11402
>The option for Edward to try to claim Patchouli had violated the Pax was listed as a GAME OVER but I never confirmed why this would have been a GAME OVER.

My theory on this has always been that Patchouli would have laughed in our face at the idea of our being Tharja's pet when the curse was in place before we even met her, much less before we knew she was a witch. Then she'd leave without doing anything about the curse, and not being able to father children in Impregnator Kings would absolutely be a Game Over.

26dd2 No.11405

>>11404
Alternatively, Patchy could have flipped it back on Tharja and Beatrice that they were trying to interfere with her experiment and invoke the Pax on them. From there she could have either laughed in all their faces and left, or brought upon some unknown hell that would have resulted in at least Tharja and Beatrice getting killed if not Edward or even the rest of the castle as well (especially since Daniella was still lurking in the shadows at that moment).

As for suggesting to make addendums to the Pax (it's about all Edward or Edwys can do), it's not an immediate need but certainly something to take note of. No guarantees that Beatice and Erika won't simply laugh in their faces at the suggestion (even if they agree, it might be a lot of trouble to do), but it's certainly worth keeping in mind the role it played in the massacre of Ruhemania's witches.

a4da9 No.11406

>>11405
You know, it hadn't even occurred to me that Patchy could (perhaps correctly) claim Edward as a magical experiment and Pax us right back. You've got a point there.

0e336 No.11407

Heh. One of the most idiotic witches in the world… or one of the most powerful. Doesn't help if you happen to be both, either…

475eb No.11408

Hello everyone,

I have to offer my thoughts about Impregnated Princess, or as it should possibly be called now, Impregnated Witch.

When we finished the scene with King Vlad, I expected to wrap up the story relatively quickly.

However, I now see there is real investment in the story with the votes, discussion, and other commentary.

I believe I can continue to tell Witch Edwys's story. As long as there is interest. This will be alongside King Edward, of course.

One question that remains that I promised to answer was: "What would have choosing the GAME OVER (Bad End) option entailed?"

I've decided that with the side-story continuing to move forward, I will not write a full treatment. Pretty soon, the plot and characterization is going to outrun where I could've seen that ending going and it will be too much of a throwback to write it.

However, I did promise to talk about it and reveal, at a time I thought the chat thread for asking "what choice would've done what?" was soon coming.

I will therefore give my outline of how I had planned to write the Bad End.

Let me warn you: it is terribly depressing. No character gets what they want in this ending. Nevertheless, if this is how you'd like to think Impregnated Princess ended, that's your right.

So, keep reading on, or please hide the next post if you never want to see what could've been.

475eb No.11409

Edwys falls sway to King Vlad's words.

She can't control her emotions. The innocent happiness she used to feel. The hope. The despair at being betrayed. The anger at King Vlad. The anxiety that maybe… just maybe… Beatrice had also been manipulating her.

It's too much.

She opens her book and reaches for the pages.

Her book is screaming at her to stop, but she won't.

Beatrice is screaming at her to stop, but she won't.

She tugs once and feels the very core of her being begging her to stop what she's doing. The papers of her book remain fixed. There's a parallel to her own baby twitching as if it knew she was about to sacrifice it.

Then she tugs again.

The narration cuts out immediately, mid-word.

The perspective then switches to Beatrice.

She looks down at the empty shell that was Edwys, and the pages of her book still grasped in her hands.

King Vlad wheezes, then starts to say something. It's unclear if it's going to be gloating, remorseful, or praise for Edwys's actions.

"She–"

The, Beatrice uses her magic to completely rend King Vlad apart until he's a smear on the wall, before he can get another word out.

She stares at Edwys blankly until she realizes she killed King Vlad.

For good measure, she crushes Vlad's eyes to nothing too.

Beatrice completely breaks down.

"Erika will surely invoke the Pax on me. –I will let her. I will prove him wrong. I won't fight my inevitable death at her hands. I won't let King Vlad be right.

What do I care? I just lost my best friend. My only friend since Maria. Someone who I looked forward to spending a thousand years of fun with.

Someone who at least would've had 'a' life if not for me, if she remained a mortal. And now she's nothing.

What do I care if I join her?"

The perspective then switches to Erika, who walks into the room, sees Edwys's dead body, ripped book, and a catatonic Beatrice. She had a moment of "Wtf happened here?" Then she remarks "She couldn't handle it? I didn't think people actually did that." Beatrice makes no reaction.

Erika then says, whatever, they need to get going. Where's King Vlad's eyes, or even his body? Beatrice finally says she destroyed them.

Erika turns and asks her if Beatrice realizes she was going to cast some magic she'd been saving on him. She replies that she knew. Erika stares at her hard, before finally saying: "Whatever, I need you to help me collapse the castle. Let's just go."

Then Beatrice tells her to invoke the Pax.

Erika is surprised, and stares at her. She tells her this is kind of a flimsy premise to invoke the Pax with. Is Beatrice trying to make Erika look stupid? What's her angle? –The implication is Erika completely doesn't understand Beatrice is falling into grief and WANTS to be killed. She just doesn't see that as an option.

Erika continues to taunt her, saying: "You're definitely going to die, Beatrice!" And Beatrice makes no move, so finally, Erika invokes the Pax.

Every witch in the world shows up.

The majority of them are saying things like "This ought to be good, I was in the middle of something!" and it's clear none of them want to be there.

At which point, Marisa flies down on a broom and says she'll handle things. No one goes against her or tries to say 'Who died and made you Queen of the Witches?'

At first there's some question about who Edwys is and wtf happened, but Erika just says "Some mortal Beatrice helped ascend. I don't know. I didn't watch it. I guess she couldn't handle it."

At any rate, Erika explains her reason for invoking the Pax.

Marisa, and most of the witches are skeptical.

"Hold on. You just asked Beatrice to get you some mortal's eyes, without even saying you were gonna experiment with them, and she didn't, so that's 'interfering with your magical experiments?' …That's kinda flimsy, Erika ze."

At which Erika acts indignant and points out Beatrice isn't denying it.

Beatrice then finally speaks up and tells them she willingly and knowingly violated the Pax. She intentionally interfered with Erika's experiment.

Marisa gets closer and asks Beatrice if she's really, really sure that's what happened, and she repeats it.

At which point Marisa sighs, then announces it's obvious that Beatrice is consumed in grief at losing the prospective new witch she just helped ascend.

They can see the paper of Edwys's books curled up in Edwys's fingers and under her nails. It's clear it was a suicide from Edwys not being able to handle her new identity.

"Beatrice is basically committing 'suicide by Pax' here, ze. Is that really why we made the Pax? C'mon, people."

The majority of witches are being swayed by Marisa, but then Erika speaks up:

"Doesn't matter! We all agreed that the Pax is absolute! No exceptions! Besides… you all don't know what's been happening here."

Erika then tells the entire story of King Vlad's crusade. The other witches begin to notice that the dead witches of Ruhemania aren't there, to their shock.

"The reason it couldn't be stopped was because of the absoluteness of the Pax. If we just ignore the Pax, it's like saying they died for nothing. …Besides, this is Beatrice. It's basically her entire fault the Pax even exists."

It's at this point more and more voices take Erika's side. "She's a bitch, but she has a point."

Marisa finally sighs, then says it's clear how everything's going. They have to carry out the Pax. She gives a little glance at Beatrice, then backs off.

All the witches begin to yell jeers at her:

"Bye Beatrice! Can't say it was fun!"

"Bye bye, Golden Bitch!"

"Goodbye, Betrayer!"

etc…

Then every single witch brings their magical energy down and vaporizes Beatrice's book, and her.

After which, all of the witches begin wondering aloud where the fuck they actually are. The Pax summons them all, but there's no way to get them back home. (Unless they have their own solution, like Patchouli can call on Sakuya.)

Erika then makes a proposition. She has it on good authority that this country is about to explode in all out civil war. It's isolated. Backwater. Has a lot of random spread out settlements that can be preyed on… why don't a few of them stick around?

"It's free real estate!"

They collapse the castle together and move on.

Then a little epilogue about how King Vlad was able to kill two last witches by his actions.

However, it was a pyrrhic victory. He couldn't stop more witches from coming to the new Ruhemania he built and tearing it asunder.

Ruhemania was condemned to fall into the clutches of witches who cared not for manipulating games of nobility. Just using the peasantry for their own ends until they became bored.

Beatrice couldn't find redemption for her sins against her fellow witches or start anew with Edwys.

And Edwys… she sacrificed her humanity for the sake of becoming a stillborn witch.

And a new Dark Age descended upon Ruhemania.

BAD END.

***

As you can see, this ending is really dark and depressing. I don't share it to say those who voted to see it were wrong in motivation or incorrect in taking Vlad seriously. It was an option to be voted on and something Edwys could have done. I merely share it now to keep my promise.

d9d6e No.11410

Does anyone else feel terribly guilty about how the performance went down in the main thread? I find myself wanting to put my head through my desk for not thinking of how Noi would react to being in front of a crowd. It turned out alright for her in the end, but we only turned it around thanks to the work we've put in thus far. And worse still was how we ruined Alena's show. I hope we can find a way to apologize later.

0e336 No.11411

Yeah, I was honestly hoping to turn it into a staged wrestling match of sorts, but should've accounted for Noi being unable to safely grandstand.

Ah well. Maybe another time.

97d00 No.11412

>>11409
…so I'm hoping we're gonna get to find out why they say Beatrice is responsible for the Pax and betrayed other witches at some point. Knowing what little I do of where Beatrice originates, I'm not about to throw some wild guess about her actually being Bernkastel or Lambdadelta (or their Higurashi counterparts, for that matter). But we gotta find out more about the Pax somewhere, either as Edwys or Edward. …also shit I just went back and checked that thread to check my facts- Miracles was Bernkastel's title. Beatrice might be about to pop off at Edwys- should be fun.

>>11410
Yeaaah, even as someone who voted against that option, I was sitting there thinking "Maaaybe we should discuss how Noi isn't an actor and will probably freeze?"

475eb No.11413

>>11412
When Erika first appears, Beatrice explains to him in their talk afterward that Beatrice killed both Lambdadelta and Bernkastel. She also says "many hands were on the blade." Erika also says to Edward when they first meet: "You've got quite a pariah for a witch." The extent to which they're telling the truth isn't stated. Though you may be able to infer from certain scenes. (How Beatrice interacts with Patchouli, and her other words about witch society to Edward, etc.)

97d00 No.11414

>>11413
Gah, I need to do a proper re-read. Thanks for refreshing me on it.

26dd2 No.11415

Well, that little 'what-if' does seem to strengthen the idea that maybe the Pax is flawed and could use some adjustments. Maybe it might not be as difficult as originally thought, but at current the best that can be done is for Edward (and/or Tharja) and Edwys to make suggestions, and probably only at a reasonable time.

a508e No.11422

I have to ask.

Is there some sort of aversion to Mania in the player base here? I've understood avoiding seeing her a few times in previous choices because we had more pressing matters to attend to.

But we're in the closing days of the festival now, the Chrisania siblings are dealt with the new conflicts with them can be resolved in time or during the time skip, Princess A blew up in our face, and most other loose ends are wrapped up.

But we still have yet to wrap up Mania's housing situation and it remains one of our few current loose ends, and on top of that she's the only pregnancy content in a pregnancy fetish game right now, and we're still passing her up.

I haven't 100% enjoyed all of the choices that we've made, but that's the nature of any democratic system and I accept it. But this one truly baffles me. She's not my favorite character in the story, either. But this may be the third or fourth time we've passed up on her in a row, but the first time we passed her despite no other major time pressures or priorities.

I dunno. It feels like a pattern at this point and I want to check the pulse on where we're all at with this.

c0b51 No.11423

I like Mania, but I think most players either want to see the other sisters, or dont want to be associated with a crazy woman who might blow up in our face.

475eb No.11424

>>11422
It's been my experience that the girls seem to get less attention in terms of choices after they've been slept with or Edward can't really 'get' something out of them in terms of the story.

It's been a while since Malon got a sex scene for example, because she's just a stable-hand, Edward's slept with her a few times, and there's no particular reason to long-hand out a scene where Edward goes to interact with his horse.

Beatrice on the other hand probably has had more focus than Tharja at this point, because Beatrice can do almost anything Edward asks for, and provides him with lots of relevant information for him to use plot-wise. I think most everyone likes her personality and physical appearance as well. Not to mention the sex scenes have a bit more of a dynamic because Beatrice feels comfortable 'challenging' Edward. The fact she hasn't been confirmed as being pregnant may be another factor. Including her foot fetish in a sex scene has also been scaled back after I saw only a few readers liked it, most were 'meh', and those who didn't like it really didn't like it.

I'd be curious to see the results of a popularity poll.

97d00 No.11425

>>11424
If you ever run such a poll, I'd suggest ranked voting, just so we can get a sense of "second bests" and the like- sorta like you did when we picked our wife in thread 1.

b4fea No.11426

>>11424

Personally, I’m intrigued and deeply interested at the situation of Edward having his expectant women owning prominent positions or of power. There’s a certain attraction I personally feel that in some way, that we as players have such interesting characters under our belt who are carrying our offspring.

But that is merely my perspective on why I enjoy having Robin, Beatrice, Tharja, among many others as the women Edward impregnated.

0e336 No.11427

I just find there's too much to do, not enough hours in the day.

d762b No.11428

>>11427
More like too many girls to do, am I right? Hahaha!

…I'll see myself out.


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