62486 No.39082[Last 50 Posts]
We have reached thread four. New posts are coming in fast and furious.
Here's the old thread >>28802
Here's a pastebin of the story in the old thread.https://pastebin.com/q2xVM4Rz
Dedicated chat thread to offload off-topic and OOC chatter: >>>/c/7002
I still haven't done any error checking on either of the first three threads. Once I do that, I'll also archive the old threads and add links to the pastebin. In the meantime, you can use archive.org
Thread 1: https://web.archive.org/web/20170612190855/http://pregchan.com/d/res/11128.html
Thread 2: https://web.archive.org/web/20170612183649/https://www.pregchan.com/d/res/24451.html#24451
Thread 3 (only to September. Archive.org releases their snapshots on a 5-6 month delay. You'll have to manually change the capture date once newer captures are published):
Stat sheet as of the end of episode 3:https://pastebin.com/bxVD59qH
We are close to the end of episode 4.
Current vote is whether to help Sakura or Nanoha seal Rain.
Write-in: Tuxie should help Nanoha control her power in order to protect the structural integrity of Sakura's home. Let's tell Moon to give Sakura a boost to get Wood sealed, and have Black and White on standby in case something goes wrong. Again.
"Sakura, you seal Wood." You order as you turn around and quickly move over to Nanoha's side. You get on one knee, unfortunately soaking your left lower leg, but you need to lower yourself closer to the third grader's level. You place both hands on her stomach, your left hand just under her budding breasts, your right, dangerously close to her nether regions.
While you focus your magic in the palms of your hands and penetrate Nanoha's Barrier Jacket with two tendrils of magic, Sakura moves away from Rain warily and tuns back to face Wood's core. For the fourth time today, she swings her staff at Wood to seal it, "Return to the form you originally came from… Clow Card!"
The tendril from your right hand enters right by Nanoha's womb and pokes it on the way in. The girl gasps and leans back against you for support. You gently run that tendril of magic along Nanoha's womb. It had stimulated her the last time you investigated it, and you don't feel like giving up an opportunity to play with this girl's fully-matured uterus.
You extend your other tendril in the space above Nanoha's womb and the unidentified ball that appears to be the source of her magic. You prepare to siphon off some of her energy when she casts her next spell. "I'll help you control it, just remember, be less forceful when you're casting." You feel her heart beating faster, and she takes a deep breath to calm down.
"Go and seal it!" A pinkish-white ball of light starts to gather at the opening of the head of her staff, and a pink ring with Latin characters appears around it. With you siphoning off her energy and helping control its flow, Nanoha doesn't overwhelm her staff with too much magic. She shoots first a small pink beam at the girl on the rain cloud. It impacts her, but doesn't do anything.
Formulas flash through your mind, as you're tapped in to Nanoha's magic. You pick out enough to figure out that that was a ranging shot. Locked onto her target, Nanoha pours more energy into her staff. "Not to much you whisper in her ear. We just want to seal the card, not destroy Sakura's house.
"Standby Ready." The staff states, confirming the lock.
Nanoha nods and finishes her incantation, "Lyrical Magical. Clow Card, Rain." The gold head of her staff starts to glow. "Divine Buster! Seal!" The nine-year-old shoots a pink beam from her staff. You're worried at the size of it that it might have been too powerful of a spell. However, it hits the clow card and envelops it in a pink ball of light, and it gets pulled towards Nanoha's staff.
Rain's happy squeals and giggles are soon replaced by much more unhappy shouts as she's pulled forward. Once its near Nanoha's staff, a card materializes and the ball of light surrounding Rain disappears. The elfin creature struggles to escape, but it's soon sealed in its card.
You pull your tendrils free of Nanoha's insides, but you feel that she's still leaning against you, so you keep a hand on her to support her. You reach out and grab the card before it can fall into the water.
The tangle of growths obediently comes to a stop, and then it retreats. It frees Sakura and Cure Black, and even the roots retreat this time. It soon turns into a green Dryad sitting on the edge of a desk.
Sakura goes up to it, beaming a huge smile and holds her hands out. The Wood floats up into the air, and then into Sakura's hands, sealing herself back in her card.
"See, it's a gentle card." Kero states matter-of-factly.
"So trees and rain are good friends after all." Sakura replies.
Sailor Moon points to the window and says, "Ooh, look at that!" Sunlight is streaming in through the open basement window.
"Ah, how pretty!" Tomoyo exclaims.
Nanoha seems to have regained her composure and smiles at you, "Thank you, Tuxedo Kamen. You helped me so much." She looks at the Rain card in your hand and asks, "Can I give the card to Sakura?"
Behind you, you hear footsteps. Craning your neck, you see Cures Bloom and Egret, cautiously walking down the stairs. They're both missing all the petal-like folds of their gowns in the shoulder and hip area, meaning they used up their shield charges. Cure Egret is also holding her gown together where it had torn.
How do you reply to Nanoha?>Yes.>No.>In a moment.>Let's give it to her together.
Do you say anything else to Nanoha?>Write-in. [What?]
Do you say anything to anyone else?>Write-in. [What?]
Shows how far removed I am from the last time I watched Nanoha, I had Buster and Shooter mixed up. Buster starts as a seal move and becomes her cannon option later, Shooter is pure offense but ends up being her basic level attack spell.
But who fucking cares, we've got it anyway. Now we just have to teach her how to control it without us physically/magically groping her in the process.
Not gonna lie though, I will never not mentally cheer whenever I hear Standby Ready. I like Bardiche as a weapon more, because Fuck Yeah Scythe Mode, but Heart's a great Device.>>39119
As much as I want to go for the do it together option, I'm gonna say we tell her yes, and make sure to tell her she did a great job. Gives us a point or two with Nanoha and then the two, who are both closest in age and overall goals/methods, can bond for a minute or two.
While they're doing that, we can go ahead and ask everyone to report in, focusing on Bloom and Egret. We have kind of a track record at this point of handing off our cape to cover wardrobe malfunctions, but whether or not we should in this case depends entirely on whether or not they can restore their shield charges by utilizing a quick de/re-henshin. If they can, we won't need to help cover anything, but if they're as good as out of the fight, it might be time to hand the cape over.
I'll defer to my more Precure-knowledged Horsemen on that one.
Write-in: Tell Nanoha "No, thank _you_ for your hard work. I believe soon you won't need my help at all. Go ahead and give the Card to Sakura," and let her take pride in how well she did. They can have a moment to thank and congratulate each other, start bonding some.
Nod to every other girl in the basement as well, making sure to include Tomoyo, and say "Well done, everyone; that was a tough job, but you held it together admirably. My thanks for your assistance. If you'll pardon me a moment?" and go check on Bloom and Egret. If the tear in Egret's clothing is bad enough, then offer a quick fix: The watch chain or cuff links I'm guessing we have could hold the fabric together.
Once that's handled, ask if everyone's okay.
I agree with praising Nanoha, telling her that she showed excellent control. Then she can take the card to Sakura and they can bond. Mental note to self: keep an eye out to help the other girls bond similarly.
Check in with everyone else, then let's figure out if there are any more disasters to take care of today.
I think Neal, Limits, and Luc are still in the old thread.
This seems like it covers everything.
Yeah, we're pretty much all voting for the same thing so far, just different ways of saying it.
That's because we're actually good people. Pervs, but still good people.
Seems to be curse, either I have the time, but not the votes, or the votes, but not the time. Let's continue:
You let go of Nanoha and make sure that she's able to stand on her own. "No, thank you for your hard work. I believe soon you won't need my help at all. Go ahead and give the Card to Sakura." You pat her on the head and she beams. She takes the offered card and runs off to Sakura to hand it off to her. You watch the two youngest girls on the team thank each other for the help. Sakura thanks Nanoha for sealing Rain, and Nanoha thanks Sakura for sealing the Jewel Seed from earlier.
You look around the girls gathered around and give them a nod, "Well done, everyone; that was a tough job, but you held it together admirably. My thanks for your assistance. If you'll pardon me a moment?"
You walk up the steps and meet the two new Cures. Egret is holding her drenched gown closed. The top of her gown has been torn into two parts, but she's able to maintain her modesty, just showing a few bits of skin down her center-line. "Are the two of you OK?" You ask, "You've had quite the first day on the job."
"I have no idea what's going on, but it's all so exciting." Cure Bloom answers, waving her arms around for effect.
"I'm alright." Cure Egret replies demurely. "But a branch got under my gown when we were running from it, and it tore through…" Her words taper off with a blush, but you still get the gist of it.
You look the two of the girls over. Without her hip petals, you realize that Cure Bloom doesn't actually have a gown. Rather, she's wearing something similar to Cure Black's uniform; she has a pair of bike shorts covered by the skirt portion of her outfit. She's missing all of the petals that are normally form her skirt as well as those on her shoulders.
Cure Egret has an actual gown, but she's lost the hip petals that served as a second layer to her skirt as well as the petals on her shoulders. The sash that she had around her waist is another casualty of the branch assaults.
Behind you, Kero yawns and states, "I'm gonna take a nap." He flutters up the stairs, passing the three of you.
The Cures' cell phones jump out of their pouches and open up. Just like Mepple and Mipple, there's a head of a stuffed animal-like creature living inside each of them. "You two, Pretty Cures, are the only ones who can save the Garden of Fountains, lapi." The green one states.
"You're our last hope, chopi." The cream one adds.
Together they both say, "We hope you take good care of us, chopi, lapi." Then they both return to the pouches.
The two new Cures stare at their pouches, not able to fully process what they just saw.
They're interrupted from their stunned silence by Kero shouting from upstairs, "Sakura! We're in trouble!"
You hear footsteps running in the basement. "Let's see if we can help." You say and motion for the Cures to head back upstairs. The three of your clear the basement stairs for Sakura and the rest of the girls. On the ground floor, you see the problem; the entire house is a mess. Furniture is strewn everywhere, curtains are barely hanging up, muddy footsteps are everywhere, and more.
Sakura comes up the stairs and also is shocked, "I- I have to clean the house all over again." You can feel the joy and excitement slipping away from the girl's voice.
"Don't worry, I'll help you clean up." Tomoyo offers.
Sakura gets on her knees and hugs her friend, and Kero flies over and does so as well. Both of them are crying from relief [pretend Sakura is still in her normal clothes in the picture].
The other girls chime in one by one, "I'll help too." "Me too." "So will I."
Sakura starts profusely thanking everyone for the help.
You're worried that something else might still be lurking. Instead of agreeing to help, you close your eyes and focus. With Sailor Moon just a few steps away from you, her overwhelming warm glow is blinding your sensing powers. Suddenly, the glow disappears, and you're able to make out the individual girls in the house with you.
"Ah, now I'm not in those wet clothes anymore." Sailor Moon, no she's Usagi now that she's not transformed, says. In rapid succession, the signals belonging to the rest of the girls disappear. Without them, you're able to sense clearly, and find no sign of an evil presence nearby.
"Ahh! It's you!" You open your eyes to find all the girls detransformed and Nagisa pointing to her doppelganger. "You're the girl from the Chanela store. And you're Mishou Mai." You look over the four detransformed Cures and the resemblance is uncanny. With them this close, you can tell the difference between them, but from a distance, you can certainly see how easy it'd be to get them mixed up.
The four girls introduce themselves to each other: Cure Black is Misumi Nagisa, Cure White is Yukishiro Honoka, Cure Bloom is Hyuuga Saki, and Cure Egret is Mishou Mai.
While they're doing that, you take a closer look at everyone. Since they've detransformed, all the girls that were soaked by Rain no longer are. The only exception is Sakura, since she was in her regular clothes the entire time. Likewise, your shoes, socks, and left pant-leg are also wet.
Tomoyo drags Sakura off saying, "Let's get you changed into something dry." The two of them go past you down the hall and up the stairs.
The rest of the girls also start heading down the hall to take their shoes off by the door and put on the guest slippers.
What do you do?>Join the cleanup as well.>Time for your dramatic exit.>Talk to one/some of the girls/ [Which one(s)?]>Ask one of the girls to speak with privately. [Which one?]>Write-in. [What?]
Bwahahah, that picture.
Okay, so remember last time when I argued that we should peace out rather than get stuck helping with cleanup duty because Kamen don't clean? I'm about halfway on that one. I still think Kamen don't clean, BUT this is our free Private Action phase before the end of the chapter, and we need to make use of it. Not only that, but this is actually one of if not the only clean shot at poking around Sakura's house that I think we're gonna get, and I've got somewhere I want to take a look at.
I also not only have someone in mind that I want to talk to, but an actual excuse to do it that helps us out in the long run.
That said… I'm honestly a little iffy about this one. As I said, this is our shot at building Social Link ranks, and there's always a delicate balance to be had between doing that and doing something that builds your real world stats. But then again, Minato Arisato needed to eat Fuuka's cooking before he could bang her, and that required building his Courage stat up to Badass. This isn't quite the same thing but fuck you guys I don't care I just wanted to make a Persona 3 reference, don't judge me.
*ANYWAY!* So, the point I'm trying to make is, I've got a suggestion that doesn't get us closer to getting laid but might get us closer to being OP as fuck. So take that as you will.
So I'm gonna vote to volunteer to take another look down in the basement to make sure things are okay down there, and ask Yuuno to go with us since he's got an easier time checking the books down there to make sure nothing was water-damaged or anything. In reality, we want to get him alone to talk to him about stuff and check out Sakura's dad's goddamn library because you never know if anything useful might be sitting around in a library that also happened to contain a goddamn book full of Card Magic.
BTW Moe, gonna casually ask you to check the discussion thread when you have some time. I'm mildly curious about your thoughts on the suggestion that has come up in there.
Write-in: I partially agree with Midnight. Taking Yuuno to the basement for a chat and investigation is a good idea, but while Tuxie may not clean, Mamoru does; he has to, being a self-sufficient bachelor who probably had to learn how to manage a household while he was growing up in the orphanage.
True, Tuxie doesn't remember being Mamoru, but that doesn't mean tidy habits wouldn't filter through. Habit is a powerful thing; it takes conscious effort for me to stop biting my lip when I'm focusing on a task that requires delicacy, for instance. So Tuxie should at least find a broom and duster and do some work while Yuuno investigates.
This will have the unexpected benefit of pleasing the girls; basements are notorious residences for [twitch] bugs, especially [twiiiiitchtwitchtwitchtwitch] spiders.
Supporting Fem. Head down to the basement to talk to Yuuno and maybe absentmindedly clean while down there.
Persona has infected my life so that I see Social Links everywhere. XD. Probably because I'm so close to finishing 4, and I'll probably have all but one SL maxed out. So close, yet so far… And now I'm trying to think of who would be what arcana. (Sailor Moon as Lovers, Nagisa as Chariot, etc) XD. Darn the excellent writing of that game!>>39714
I like this idea, and it allows to retain a bit out our mysterious nature while attempting to increase our Knowledge and Diligence. …Dang you Persona!
Dude, P5 is somehow even goddamn better. I never thought I would say that until last year.
I guess I'll sort of agree with at least grabbing something to look like we're cleaning, but I was focusing more on the fact we had a water-based card summon running around in a basement filled with old books as what we'd do to help. Moe did note standing water down there during Rain's little playtime.
Ohhh, right. Okay, I'll need to change my vote. Take Yuuno down, talk with him and investigate the books, presumably for water damage. If the standing water is a problem, maybe Tuxie could find an old mop or a rag bin and try to do some habitual cleaning that way. Even if it can't be entirely taken care of by one person, maybe the mess could be mitigated by our efforts to the point that it could be passed off as leaky pipes if Mr. Kinomoto or Touya find out.
Exactly. We've got an excuse to go down there and poke around and still be vaguely helpful with cleaning.
"Yuuno, we'll take care of the basement."
"Right," the ferret nods.
You follow the girls to the front door, admiring the view, and take off your shoes and replace them with slippers. The house may be a mess now, but with so many girls working together, you're sure they'll get it clean quite quickly. You don't want to be rude and leave muddy footprints once the house is cleaned up.
With Yuuno in tow, you head to the basement. Despite the fact that the basement was the epicenter of Wood's wild growth, there's far less of a mess than upstairs. A single bookshelf is out of place and fair number of books have been knocked to the floor, but it's nowhere near as bad as the mess upstairs.
"Let's start with getting that bookshelf back in place, then we can take care of the books." You order. The two of you head to the bookshelf in the last aisle.
Yuuno uses Chain Bind to pull it back it place while you push. With that out of the way, you split up and start picking up books and putting them back on the shelves.
"Ahh! There's so many books! And they're all about archeology!" Yuuno gushes, "I wish I could read them all." The ferret's certainly interested in the task.
You flip open a few of the books, despite having been soaked, none of them show signs of any water damage. Like Yuuno said, they're all about archeology. One book in particular grabs your attention, "Forbidden Archeology, the Hidden History of the Human Race." Skimming though a few pages, you see that the authors are making an argument that humanity is much older than the current scientific consensus.
What do you do?
>Read some more of the book.
>Hold onto the book and "borrow" it."
>Put the book back.
>Talk to Yuuno about the fact that the books aren't water damaged.
>Ask Yuuno about himself.
>Ask Yuuno about his mission.
Write-in: Suggest that Yuuno ask permission to borrow a book or two. Sakura might not have a problem with it, depending on who the books belong to. That could segue to commenting that it's odd the books haven't been damaged. Perhaps Yuuno could tell us if they're magic.
I'd say talk about the lack of water damage and ask about Yunno's mission (which also tells us something about Nanoha in the process, I hope.)
Mention that the books don't seem to be water damaged, which is the main thing we came down here to check for the sake of cleaning, and then, while still glancing through the book a bit, conversationally go ahead and start asking him about himself and his mission, as they're clearly interconnected. I agree with seeing if we can borrow the book, but that's for later, and we're here with Yuuno now. If we only ask about the Jewel Seeds, he's only going to talk about those. If we ask about where he's from, we have a much higher chance of him talking about Mid-Childa or Dimensional Space as a whole, which allows us to start asking questions about that stuff as well.
This is the reason I wanted to talk to Yuuno. The other mascots are pretty up front about their missions and goals to the girls helping them, but in canon, Ferret Bro here literally will not tell Nanoha about 90% of the world-building background until the TSAB show up and force him to, and she doesn't know enough to ask in the first place. So it's up to us to make him spill about it so we can make the most of the information NOW, before it comes down to Magical Starfleet showing up on our doorstep and saying "We're here to help for your own good, side with us or be treated like a nuisance at best or an active threat at worst."
Yes, I have a very low view of the TSAB in general. I'm also playing the long game like you would not believe, and not being solely aligned with them from the moment they show up is part of that.
"It's odd that these books aren't damaged." You comment. "Could they be magical?"
"Oh. Hmm." Yuuno focuses on something for a while and replies, "No. These are just normal books. There's residual magic in the basement, but that's because of the battle. I don't know. Maybe Rain's water doesn't get books wet, or Wood dried everything up without damaging the books."
"I guess." You reply, only half paying attention to the ferret. You're flipping through the book. One chapter mentions the migration patterns of early humans in North America being impossibly fast compared to other migrations. Another mentions cities that are much more populous than could be supported in a pre-technological society. One section grabs your attention, ruins of a city in India with evidence of nuclear fallout, supported by text from the Mahabharata.
"A single projectile charged with all the power in the Universe…An incandescent column of smoke and flame as bright as 10,000 suns, rose in all its splendor…it was an unknown weapon, an iron thunderbolt, a gigantic messenger of death which reduced to ashes an entire race."
Tingles run down your spine as you read that text. Surely it's poetic license, hyperbole, or a bad translation. There's no way for an ancient civilization from thousands of years ago to have had weapons that were so destructive, and yet you're unwilling to discount the claim out of hand.
With the silence growing, you switch topics, "Back on the rooftop of the school you said that you were collecting jewel seeds, and you mentioned a spaceship and the Time Space Administration Bureau. Are you from another planet?"
"That's right. I'm from Midchilda. Back home, my job is to excavate ancient ruins. The galaxy is full of lost civilizations, and I found the jewel seeds in an ancient monument. My clan sent them to Midchilda for safe keeping, but the time-space transporter carrying them met either an accident or some kind of artificial tragedy. It veered off course, entered this solar system, and was destroyed. Twenty-one jewel seeds were dispersed over this world. So far I've only been able to find three."
"Since they're so powerful, wouldn't this Time Space Administration Bureau send out a retrieval team? They do have things like that, right?"
"Of course; they have an entire Navy that patrols their sphere of influence. However, there's an old treaty between Midchilda and your Moon Kingdom, closing off all access to your solar system, and enforced by the Queen's most powerful guardians."
"I've never heard of a Moon Kingdom, or a Moon Queen, but Sailor Moon and Luna are searching for the Moon Princess. Do you think those could be related?"
"It would make sense, but there's an admiral in the TSAB Navy from your planet. I studied everything that he said about your planet before coming here. He never mentioned any Moon Kingdom, or any guardians preventing exit or entry. He saved the life of a Midchildan clerk when he was young and decided to emigrate to Midchilda. That's why I felt safe risking coming here, but I couldn't ask anyone from my clan to take that risk.
"The hardest thing to believe was when he said that almost no one has any magic potential. According to him, knowledge of magic is limited to a guild and there are very people with magic potential, let alone magic users. I think he overestimated the rarity of mages, but he was right about most people not having any magic potential on Earth."
What do you do?
>Ask a specific question about the TSAB or Midchilda. [what?]
>Ask about Yuuno's clan.
>Hint to Yuuno that he might want to ask Sakura if he could borrow a book or two.
>Wrap the conversation up. [And do what?]
Sorry about the scarcity of my being here.
Blue, you're probably onto something with the whole "not trusting the STAB" (Spacetime Administration Bureau, while likely more correct, forms a much meaner acronym) thing. They have some pretty sketchy moments of oversight, and their military tends to fall on the "shoot first, ask questions never" side of things.
So I like what you're doing here. Anyway, my vote is that we encourage Yuuno to ask Sakura if he can borrow some if those books. It seems like the option that best forwards our goals without creating suspicion or ruffling feathers.
I'm not sure what that book is talking about but I'm pretty sure we need to remember that it did.
Hmm. Interesting how the backstory comes around, though part of me wonders about the timeline. The TSAB hasn't been around for a huge amount of time, but then again, he said the treaty was between the Moon and Mid itself…
Gil Graham's account is interesting as well, in a way. He's English, and according to him magic users are super rare and very limited down to a single guild? There are pieces to the puzzle here, and I'm curious where they fit together. It's not lost on me, however, that his account pretty much states outright that he knew about magic BEFORE joining the TSAB. That'll be something to keep in mind later.>>39892
Calling it "Space-Time" never really fit well in my head, since "Time-Space" just sounds better to me. I know it's entirely a translation choice, though.
But yeah, let's be real here. The bigger the organization, the less we should blindly trust it as a whole. Nanoha ends up aligned with the TSAB pretty much as soon as they show up in canon, but we're not a nine year old girl from the middle of nowhere with no previous context of magic whatsoever and a bigger focus on "finding Jewel Seeds" and "helping that girl" to the point that we'll take any help we can get at the time. We need to be able to question these sorts of things, especially since it is ENTIRELY in the Bureau's MO to go full Panic Mode whenever Lost Logia are involved and try to take full control of the situation when they arrive, no matter how complicated it may be. This will naturally lead them to treat us like a threat if we didn't immediately join up with their side once they inevitably arrive, and that's a headache I want to avoid while still keeping us relatively autonomous in the process.
tl;dr Blue's said he was playing the long game and meant it.
As for my vote, still okay with getting Yuuno to ask about the books, but before that, ask him, hypothetically, if the TSAB were to send a retrieval team, what their likely MO would be. And while we're at it, ask him if he's able to/been attempting to send out any kind of message.
With that second question, I think canonically Precia's been blocking the outgoing calls to try and keep the TSAB from showing up, so it doesn't matter if Yuuno's actually been trying to contact the Bureau or not, but it's still something to be aware of. As I said before, Nanoha doesn't know enough to ask him this stuff and he's not going to bring it up himself.
The use of STAB as an acronym further reinforces the idea for me that this is Pokemon but sexy. XD>>39896
I'm glad you're playing the long game. I personally have never had the foresight to see things that far off. It'll help keep us guided while the rest of us chase a little tail.
I'll back Blue with my vote.
I'm backing Blue on a technicality: Given our immediate concerns with all the weird happenings occurring in our side of Tokyo, ask if STAB would be able to lend a hand in case things get really hairy. That may prompt Yuuno to try to contact them, or let Nanoha know what's up with 'em. Then suggest Yuuno ask to borrow some of the books in order to further his goals. Given how he and Nanoha helped out, I'm betting Sakura's willing to be generous (but again, depending on who the books belong to and if said owner will notice they're missing for a short time).
Yeah, I'll follow Blue's lead
No worries about the absence.>>39892>>39896
Scientifically, Space-time is correct, but the Nanoha-verse is consistent in using Time-Space. I accidentally used Space Time in a previous thread if I remember correctly.
>Gil Graham's account is interesting as well, in a way. He's English, and according to him magic users are super rare and very limited down to a single guild? There are pieces to the puzzle here, and I'm curious where they fit together. It's not lost on me, however, that his account pretty much states outright that he knew about magic BEFORE joining the TSAB. That'll be something to keep in mind later.
Someday I might just give you guys a non-canon Omake with the girls training in the form of a pokemon battle.
I'm on to you, Zeltrech. You and your snooty jerkass Mage Association. I'm already blacklisted by them and the Church's Burial Agency anyway, there isn't much else you can do on that one.
Worth noting, since we're on the subject of A's related topics? I'm legitimately looking forward to the Wolkenritter, just for Signum. I like the group as a whole, but seriously, it's Signum.
This just in, Mage Association secretly controlled by Dead Apostles. More at 11. But first, the Great Fuyuki City fire, was it an inside job?
It'd basically be a party foul to not help, so keep picking up the books. Maybe another will get Tuxie's attention.
I vote for checking out the one in your hand first, maybe it's something we can read later.
Well, we've certainly managed to establish all reasonable points of information about the TSAB and their conditions for getting involved in our business. However, we're not done talking to Yuuno yet, as he has not answered the one last important question.
"Yuuno… The Jewel Seeds. Would they be capable of causing that kind of disaster? For example, if things had gotten out of hand with that tree today, or if perhaps that fight with Jadeite had escalated any further than it did?"
After that, we can look at the other books on the ground for anything else worth picking up, and I want to hang on to the one we've got for now as well.
But yeah, I went back and looked to make sure, and we only established "Setting off Jewel Seeds is a BAD IDEA" in OoC during that fight. We need to make sure it's understood IC as well. We still haven't had a chance even with his explanation just now to address the issue of Lost Logia as a whole, but we will eventually need to get that particular Truth Bullet in time for the Class Trial. If we can't segue into it with this line of questioning here, we might be out of chances to do it during this conversation as a whole.
Finish with the books, then back to the girls upstairs.
This is a good plan, and a good segue. Seconded.
Two votes to wrap up the books quickly.>>39928
One vote to look into the book in hand some more.>>39939>>40023
Two votes to ask about the Jewel Seeds, hold onto the book in hand, and see if any other books catch your attention.
With the votes at 2-2-1, either Luc is going to have to break the tie, someone is going to switch votes, or I'm going to have to flip a coin and pick one.
I'm gonna back Blue, because the seeds make me a lot more nervous than the cards.
Hmm. So either he doesn't know the Jewel Seeds are in fact top class cataclysm generators, or he's purposely downplaying it. Or Moe nerfed them, and I doubt that. I suspect the latter, as while Scrya here is being our bro I still suspect he's operating under standard Bureau guidelines for contact with locals on an Unadministrated World, the main point of which being that they're basically savages compared to proper Midchildan mages and should be treated as such, and minimize contact and information of magical nature as much as possible.
As for the book, we don't exactly have reason to hide it or even think twice about it for now. I say we just keep cleaning while holding the book and then address it either when we finish or when Yuuno says something about it, at which point we say it looks interesting andl suggest he ask if he can borrow it.
Option 3 since it's apparently plot relevant.
Set the book aside and ask to borrow it later. There's no guarantee as to when we'll see Sakura as Tuxie again, and hell if Mamoru will remember what happened. Plus, if we just take it, that could damage Sakura's growing trust and make us look suspicious to the other girls. Don't forget, we're a _Gentleman_ Thief; we steal from jewelry stores, not little girls.
If nothing else, Tuxie can read it in a a couple of hours -I'm guessing that as a student, he could be a speed-reader if he had to cram- and drop it off with a rose and a note thanking Sakura for the loan.
Oh, also, asking to borrow the book will score us points with Ami. If she thinks he enjoys quiet studying, it would give her something to relate to and help her open up some.
Once again, we're all saying the same thing in different ways. I am amused.
Yeah I'll go with option 3.
You figure that you may not be the most responsible person to borrow something, especially considering what happened with the camcorder you "borrowed" from Tomoyo. However, if you convince Yuuno to borrow it instead, you can ask him for a summary of the book at a later time.
The ferret runs to your aisle and starts casting levitation spells. It's like looking at a cyclone in reverse. The books he picks up spin around him and fly onto the shelves. You stop working just to take in the sight. You realize why Yuuno makes sure to spin the books around him. Each one passes in front of his line of sight, and you see him glance at each title, and then send it off to its appropriate spot on the bookshelves.
Yuuno stops when there's just a handful of books left near your feet. "Almost done!" He exclaims and starts working on the remaining few books by hand. You join him, still holding onto the first book in your left hand. When all the books are in place, Yuuno asks, "Do you need help finding where that one goes?"
"No." You reply and toss him the book. "I think you might be interested in this one. This completely contradicts everything that we know about the past of this planet, but I think some of it might match up with what you were talking about. It sounds just like a crazy conspiracy theory to me, but maybe they stumbled on the truth."
Yuuno catches the book and listens to your explanation. "Hmm. That is interesting. Thanks! I'll ask if I can borrow that one too." He looks at the title and authors once more, runs down the aisle, puts it in the correct spot, and heads upstairs, looking for Sakura.
What do you do now?
>Sneak out through the basement window.
>Take a look at some more books.
>>40392>Sneak out through a window
Pffff. Even if that wasn't the dumbest idea, that's still the dumbest idea. XD
I'm gonna assume Yuuno's probably scouted all of the books on top of being Ferret Librarian, so nothing super relevant will likely be sitting around, but a chance is a chance is a chance, and this is probably our last one. Let's peruse the shelves one more time real quick, just to see if anything jumps out at us, and take a look if one does catch our attention. If nothing does, let's just go ahead and head on back up.
I second this. Scout the books, then head back up.
Write-in: Eh, if none of the others were as compelling, go on up, check on the girls' progress, maybe ask if they need help. If not, politely excuse yourself and maybe do a cursory check of the supposedly haunted woods.
I think checking the haunted woods is what got us to this point, Fem. And technically speaking, Kamen's never heard of any haunted forest rumors, just Mamoru.
Like Blue said, Kamen isn't aware of the Haunted Forest rumors (although if someone told him about it, he'd assume it was either Illusion, or the current tree fiasco).
And, re-exploring the haunted forest was just the level select screen to do this scenario this episode.
I would rather about the scouts (and other girls) so head upstairs and see how the cleanup is going.
You're both right, sorry. I haven't re-read those threads in a while. Too much else going on in meatspace.
I'll amend my write-in: Since none of the other books really got Tuxie's attention, go on up, check on the girls' progress, maybe ask if they need help. If not, politely excuse ourselves.
Eh, I say we head on upstairs for now.
You consider looking over the books to see if something else interesting catches your eye, but you figure Yuuno must have done a clean sweep of the library already, and you'd rather speak with the girls upstairs than stay in the basement and read a book.
Making sure nothing is out of place, you head upstairs and turn the light off behind you. You barely get out of the way as Sakura dashes out of the bathroom with a basket full of wet laundry.
"Sorry!" She shouts over her shoulder as she runs down the hall. The young girl is now wearing a new outfit. It's a pink dress with white sleeves and white leggings. She's wearing pink and white boots and a pink Alice band with two white wings.
Now you know why Tomoyo dragged Sakura off to help her get changed. She wanted Sakura to try on the outfit she brought, and knowing her, probably recorded the brunette changing. You hear a deep satisfied sigh from the bathroom. Looking through the door where Sakura came from, you see Tomoyo holding her camera with her eyes closed and a big grin on her face. Figuring she must have recorded Sakura, you keep going forward.
In the kitchen to your left, you see Ami cleaning with a wet rag. Continuing down the hallway, you look into the lounge. Usagi is on all fours using a roller on the rug. The skirt from her school uniform goes all the way down to her knees so she's not revealing anything unfortunately. Nagisa and Honoka are also looking away from you, trying fix the curtains. From the top of the stairs, you hear Yuuno and Sakura speaking about something, possibly about borrowing some books. This leaves Nanoha and the two new Cures unaccounted for, but a quick peek by the door tells you that everyone's shoes are still here. The three of them must be upstairs.
What do you do?
>Go to the bathroom and speak with Tomoyo. [Topic?]
>Go to the kitchen and speak with Ami. [Topic?]
>Go to the lounge and speak with the three girls there. [Topic?]
>Eavesdrop on Yuuno and Sakura's conversation.
Hmm. Half-real talk question and half-write-in response, take just a moment to think about all of the people/animals in the house and where you, Tuxedo Kamen, likely currently stand with their opinion of you.
I'll answer that OOC since it'll be easier and faster.
Tomoyo: You stole her camcorder although you returned the tape to her (indirectly) with the offending footage of your face edited out. You don't know what you did with her camera, but she currently has another one.
Ami: You haven't had too much interaction outside of combat.
Usagi: She's crushing on you hard.
Honoka: She didn't complain about the time you groped her tit the first episode and she's been flashing you ever since. However, it looks like a lot of her attention is focused on Nagisa.
Nagisa: Interrupted Honoka to introduce you to the new Cures. She was at a loss for words when you told her that you noticed her.
Sakura: She likes the tingling feeling of when you heal her. You stole her friend's camcorder, but you did carry her home safely when she fell unconscious.
Yuuno: You helped him out in his time of need, and you've been fighting together since.
Mai and Saki: You made a nice first impression on them, but otherwise haven't had a chance to interact with them.
Nanoha: You helped her control her magic, and gave her a strange and new, but very pleasant, sensation while doing so.
Luna: Started distrustful, slowly warmed up to you, then you got her stuck in the vines and she's not a happy kitty. Speaking of which, you haven't seen her since Rain retreated into Sakura's house.
Kero: You've helped him recover the Clow Cards, but you also stole Tomoyo's camcorder. Mixed feelings.
The Cures' mascots: You've barely interacted with them.
Thanks, I figured that having a bit of an update on where we are with everyone would help people make a choice here, or at least that's what I assume is stopping anyone else from posting at the moment. We could always use an update anyway.
So, at the moment, I'm leaning towards Tomoyo, Ami, or going upstairs and chatting up the Splash Star Cures. Anyone got any other ideas or want to narrow that list down a little further? I'm curious where Luna's gotten off to, as well, but she's more likely to turn up sooner or later anyway, and we can probably apologize to her about those vines (again, if we haven't already) at that point.
I'm working a new job and last night I was too tired to post. I guess it depends what S. Link we want to increase. Though now that I bring up that analogy again, I wonder how long we can pay attention to other girls before Usagi's (or another girl's link) backslides. Food for thought.
Anyway, approach Ami for now.
The Reversal/Broken mechanic was bullshit, even if it did result in Minato canonically getting to nail every girl he made friends with without consequences otherwise. I'm glad they took it out in the later games, even if the chance in sensibilities meant also having to give up the life of a player as a result.
Seriously, the Valentine's Day retribution in P5 if you have the balls to romance every last girl is both legendary and horrifying at the same time.
Anyway, I'll go ahead and toss in with going to talk to Ami as well.
Don't forget to say what topic(s) you want to bring up.
Go tell Ami what Yuuno told us. I'm hoping she can share the info with Usagi and Luna (when she's found again), and Luna will know what to do with it. 'Cause, y'know, I don't. [sheepish]
Just try to get to know her a little and ask if she knows her fellow sailor scout? Maybe introduce them if necessary.
Oops. That was me btw.
Well, the Splash Cures introduced themselves today, but everyone else did a group-wide introduction last night after the cram school stuff. Dunno if the two of them have tried to hang out much outside of the team training (Was Ami even there for that? I'd have to go look) but they at least know each other's names, and I'm pretty sure Usagi will zero in on her fellow Sailor pretty quick, since they're clearly using the same power set.>>40528
I'm gonna go with Fem's idea for a topic. We should probably disseminate the TSAB info to the others fairly quick, though we (by which I mean me, since I was basically running that line of dialogue) really should've remembered to ask if he's told any of this to Nanoha and then inevitably tell him he should when he admits he hasn't. I feel like we might step on some toes/paws here by letting word get around about the stuff Yuuno's potentially connected to before the person most relevant to that information is informed herself. Then again, Ami might just straight up say "Let's go find Nanoha and make sure she hears this." and I'd say "And that's why I like you."
…By which I mean that I, Blue, would be saying that. Not Kamen. I'd come up with a slightly less forward but equally flattering way to say it if that was gonna be Kamen's response. Which it might be, if that was the case. Look, it's Easter weekend and I work retail, okay. Just be glad this is a game I play to feel smart and awesome, and not my murder stress relief like Fire Emblem Warriors is. Tharja just got released with the new DLC and I am just murdering everything in that game with her right now.
Hang in there, man.
>>40548> Fire Emblem Warriors
That's not a thing, is it? *Googles* And there's another reason why I need to get a Switch.
If and when, hit me with your friend code. I'd post mine, but my Switch is currently dead from too much BotW.
I'll agree that we should tell Ami about it, but with the added part of asking her advice on if we should try to convince Yuuno to tell the rest of the team himself.
>>40548>Then again, Ami might just straight up say "Let's go find Nanoha and make sure she hears this." and I'd say "And that's why I like you."
There are many traits that Ami has, but especially at the start of the series, assertiveness, directness, and decisiveness are not any of them.
You really need someone to speak with about everything that you just learned from Yuuno. Ami's face was plastered all over the Crystal Seminar, and she strikes you as a very intelligent young woman. You turn around and head back down the hallway, passing the lounge and den. You hear Tomoyo putting another load of laundry in the washer to your left, and you turn right and enter the dining area.
Ami is wiping the counter separating the kitchen and the dining area. She looks up and greets you, "Oh, Tuxedo Kamen. Are you done cleaning in the basement?"
The divider separating the lounge from the kitchen is closed, so you shouldn't have any interruptions from the three girls in there. "We are. Yuuno is a wizard at cleaning up books. We even found a few interesting books on archeology."
The bluenette perks up at the mention of an interesting book. "What was it about?" She inquires.
"I only read a few pages, but it seemed just like conspiracy theories, migration patterns and human fossils in older strata, and even an ancient text that implies an ancient civilization with weapons that sound like nukes."
Ami's excitement fades, but her interest is still there.
"However, Yuuno mentioned that the people of his planet had a very old treaty with the Moon Kingdom. It sounds like the authors might be onto something."
"Ancient Astronaut Theory." Ami replies, "Some people say that advanced aliens visited the Earth a long time ago, but it's supposed to just be pseudo-scientific nonsense."
"There might be more too it than anyone figured." You add as you walk into the kitchen proper and lean against the counter facing Ami. "That's interesting for sure, especially if it turns all of our archeological knowledge on its head, but what really worries is what he told me about the Jewel Seeds." You recount Yuuno's explanation of the power of the Jewel Seeds.
"He doesn't sound too worried, but I don't like the thought of items powerful enough to rip apart the fabric of space-time just lying around."
"Hmm." Ami hums. She nibbles on her left index finger while thinking, "Has Yuuno told that to anyone else?"
"No. At least I don't think so."
What do you resolve to do?>Find Yuuno now, get him to tell everyone about the jewel seeds.>Find Nanoha now and tell her about the jewel seeds.>Tell Yuuno to tell everyone next time you see him.>Think about it some more, possibly speaking with him in private about it later.>Let him tell everyone about the jewel seeds when he's ready.>Write-in. [What?]
If not selecting one of the first two options from the first question, what do you do?>Keep talking with Ami. [Any topics you want to make sure to hit?]>Spray Ami with the side sprayer from the sink.>Thank her for helping you order your thoughts and go speak with someone else. [Who and about what?]>Thank her for helping you order your thoughts and take your leave.>Write-in. [What?]
Option 4.2 sounds pretty nice to me. Water fights always make ladies love you.
Gonna go with thinking it over, since while he DOES need to tell the group as a whole about this stuff, it's not a giant rush now that he's at least told someone about it, re: us. Treating it like he's done something wrong by not coming forward from the start is just a good way to burn the bridge.>>40907
Don't believe Moedore's lies! The only possible thing we could do that would piss her off more right now would be to actually try and get physical with her. It's a bad idea, man.
So I'm gonna say keep talking with her. As for potential subjects to talk about, might as well start with asking her how she's holding up with all this magical girl business going on.
I say we think about and bring it up with him later.
As for Ami, I'm very tempted to give her a little spritz. Granted, that might be because my brother got away with doing stuff like that to his girlfriend (now his wife.)
But I don't know if Ami has as much of a sense of humor as the other girls at this point, so I'm going to say that I' d go with Blue's idea.
Only three people. Oh well.
You should have Yuuno tell everyone else, but if he thinks it not urgent, you can give him some time now and speak with him later about telling everyone. You glance at the side sprayer at the sink and consider spraying Ami with it. Sailor Mercury has a water affinity, and it might be an interesting way to get her to loosen up. On the other hand, you don't know her too well and you're not sure how she'd react to something like that.
"What else did Yuuno say about his planet?" Ami asks as you decide not to spray her with water.
"Not too much. He said that his planet had a treaty with the Moon Kingdom, closing off the borders of the solar system. He didn't mention why though. If the Moon Kingdom doesn't exist anymore, that would explain why he was able to make it in. He also mentioned that there's an admiral in the TSAB that emigrated to Midchilda from Earth, and he never mentioned a Moon Kingdom."
The two of you silently ponder that for a while, then you ask, "How are you holding up with all of this magical girl business?"
"It's exciting!" She blurts out, and then immediately blushes, feeling self-conscious. "I mean, it's very different from my normal life. I don't have as much time to study, but I didn't know fighting could be so exhilarating, even if I'm not too good at it yet. I always thought fighting was for stupid people, but I see why some people like it, especially today…" A slight grin appears as her words trail off. "And I got to make some friends. Usagi is so sweet, but a week ago, I would have just brushed her off as loud, stupid, and annoying." Ami looks over her shoulder to make sure no one else is in the kitchen to hear her, "but she is just a little bit."
You chuckle and nod, but take note of the fact that she said 'friends' and not 'new friends', "She's a little over-exuberant." The bluenette covers her mouth and giggles at the understatement. Your eyes are drawn to her breasts as they jiggle under her school uniform from her laughter. You haven't really noticed until now, but her breasts are quite large, C-cups you'd guess. She's carried herself so demurely that you hadn't noticed up to this point.
What do you say next?>Continue the conversation. [Next topic?]>Let me help you finish with the kitchen.>Honoka is pretty skilled at Judo, you might want to talk with her about helping you train.>I'd be happy to give you some tips to help you fight better. [Now or later?]>It was nice speaking with you, but I need to speak with _____. [Who?]>Write-in. [What?]
Time for "By your options combined, I am Tuxedo Kamen!", or more commonly known as the "Most of these options are good so let's go with a bunch of them.". Or more commonly known around here as "Blue's got your back, fam."
So we've got the talking option, which lets us ask another question about her and her life should we choose, which is actually sort of a trap. Ami's pretty much a textbook "smart girl with no social life" case, so asking her about any topic related to her backstory is just gonna bring the mood down, so we'll come back to that.
Helping her with the kitchen is gonna get us some points, especially since we're on a roll with her at the moment, but it's a waste to just do this and nothing else, so we'll again come back to it.
Now, the part about Honoka is intriguing. On the one hand, Ami is a pretty standard support role until she gets Shabon Spray Freezing, though the water shot is nice in a pinch. Having her learn some Judo would be nice in an emergency, but the bigger point to this would be her and Honoka hanging out, thus building the Affinity bar between the two. And they're both the smart girl of their team, so they'd definitely get along. The two of them plus Fate would practically be their own little book club.
Offering to teach her ourselves, however, is how we play the long game here. While helping with the kitchen gets us points now, doing this gets us books us for another shot to do it again, and I'll eat our domino mask if said chance doesn't give us a shot at getting physical to some degree. Offering to do it now, however, probably won't work because there's not that much space to do anything in the kitchen and it'd be kind of a dick move for us to just ditch and go somewhere else, so we'll have to go for later.
And of course, the classic Commander Shepard "I should go." option. Pass.
Soooooo, we'll put 'em together like a Power Rangers attack and blast the monster with it.
Tell her we'd be more than happy to show her a few fighting tips if she'd like, possibly later on after we're done with things here if she'd be willing to do so, and mention that Honoka knows Judo and would likely help her train if she asks at some point. Then offer to help her with the rest of the kitchen, and once we're doing that, as for a discussion topic… Ask her what kind of books she likes to read. As I said before, any talking point that leads back to studying or school or her backstory will probably kill the mood, so we skirt that by asking about stuff she actually enjoys. And it's Ami, she reads a lot. It's an easy question to ask.
Sorry Moe, been busy.>>41220
This sounds plausible enough to work, though if Moe shoots down the mix and match idea then I'll go with Tuxedo offering to train her.
Apparently, just checking the front page every day, looking for updates on the cyoa threads, was insufficient and I somehow missed the last update. How did I miss that? Still, I apologize.
Anyway, to the matter at hand. The problem I have with offering to teach her later is that we don't have control over our shifts between Mamoru and TK, nor do we have a whole memory yet. As a result, we can't fully control our social agenda. Personally I hope this is something we can fix in the near future, but if Moe plans otherwise, I can be patient.
I say just cleaning the kitchen while telling her about Honoka. IMO, this is also a relatively long game move as it will prevent the girls from getting jealous of each other later on.
I tend to check habitually whenever I have a minute and think about it. It can get buried in the front page list pretty quick during certain times of the week, I've noticed, so it's a good idea to just glance a couple times a day.
I agree with the issue about Mamoru and Kamen, for what it's worth. It's why I'm assuming a private session probably needs to happen today if it's gonna happen at all.
Yeah, this is pretty clever work overall, aside from the aforementioned difficulties.
Thinking about it, Nanoha might not be much of a reader, but she is canonically excellent at math. It really helps when your equivalent of magic is solving multi-dimensional equations that allow you to generate, amplify, or gather energy from your surroundings.
Tl:dr; everyone in Nanoha is NEEERRRDS. The Intelligent Devices help, but they can't entirely replace the caster (potentially unless they're a Unison Device; some fans believe those are practically artificial humans, and Jail Scaglietti DID make an artificial human, i.e. Fate.)
…Actually, this gives me a long-term idea. Have Mercury scan Raising Heart and/or Bardiche with the Mercury Computer, and see what she comes up with compared to the Senshi's own henshin pens (or maybe the Symphogears later :3)
The Clow Cards and Pretty Cure devices likely work in a different fashion entirely, but maybe look at them too, if we're feeling extra mad-sciency.
I also want to say that the Senshi are, what? 13, 14 currently? So Ami's pretty damn stacked for that age. (Not that I mind, I just wanted to point that out, considering basically every other magical girl will be much less developed by that age except for the Nanoha-verse girls, without T-Kamen's magical meddling.)
Oh shit, I just realized: given what we kinda did for/to/with Nanoha, can we fiddle with the puberties of the other girls? (I swear I don't know where I'm coming up with all these ideas >_> )
Finally, my actual vote: depending on the time of day, I'll go with either Blue's plan (if earlier, up to mid-afternoon) or Shadow's plan (if later, like after dinner time.)
Just the horesemen this time it seems.
When Ami stops giggling, you say, "Just like anything else, you need to practice to get good at fighting. I'd be happy to give you a few pointers."
"No, it's a little too cramped here. Besides, it wouldn't be polite if we started making a mess while everyone else is cleaning."
"True." She replies, her disappointment audible.
"I think Honoko knows Judo, so you might want to ask to practice with her as well."
Before Ami can reply, you hear a loud gurgling sound from the next room over. Your unspoken question is answered when Usagi complains, "I'm so hungry!"
"It is almost dinner-time." Honoko states.
"And it's important for growing girl to make sure to get lots to eat!" Nagisa adds.
Another voice shouts from the hallway, "Ah! Already? My dad and brother will be home soon! We have to finish soon and you all have to go. I'm not allowed to have guests over."
You turn your attention back to Ami, "You heard the girl, let's finish up quickly. Where can I find a rag?"
Ami points to the right shelf and you start wiping the dining table while she finishes the kitchen counter. "If you didn't have to go home for dinner, I'd offer to help you train after we're done here."
"I don't exactly need to be home soon. My mom's working late again tonight."
What do you say?>What about your dad?>Great, meet me at the clearning at the end of the nature path.>Great, meet me at the park where we fought the youma.>Great, we can go together and practice somewhere when we finish here.>Write-in. [Anything else before timeskipping to the end of cleaning?]
Hmm. I'm gonna say that leaving together is probably a good idea regarding Ami but a bad idea regarding, well, everyone else, but I'm not sure which location listed would be a good one. Any thoughts?
Also, if you've got a good idea for how to work that Mercury Computer idea into the conversation, Limits, go for it. I'm all for the idea as long as it's done with some semblance of appropriate timing, though it might be a derail if we suggest it tonight. Maybe something to bring up later on during the training (or "training") session that she can remember to do at another time?
>>41270>What about your dad?
Admiral_Ackbar.jpg>clearing or park
…Maybe? I don't know if she necessarily wants to go to the park. But the next option has its own potential pros and cons.>just taking her somewhere
This is the most date-like option. Are we ready for this? Somehow I doubt it…
So if I had to vote, I'd say either the clearing or the park. Actually, that place where we had to deal with all the trees had the forest ranger who was one of the many "Ami's friends" that shows up from time to time throughout Sailor Moon.
She likes that place, so I say go there.
Option 4, go together. Best way to prevent separation. Or in other words, don't split the party.
Actually, had a write-in idea. We could pretend to split up when everyone breaks for the evening, and then just have Kamen go hang out on a nearby rooftop or somewhere until everyone clears off. Once she's in the clear, we jump back down and walk with Ami to one of the locations.
Thinking about it, I do agree that going with her is the better option for multiple reasons, but being SEEN going with her is… not ideal just yet. Thoughts?
We'd probably end up with a peanut gallery at least. Usagi might get a little jealous and follow us, though we could use that to our advantage.
Yeah, this is most likely to happen in that scenario. Hmm…would it be possible to phrase things in such a way that would make Usagi more or less likely to follow us?
Well, the best way to get Usagi to follow along would be to ask her if she wanted to come along as well, though Luna would probably come as well then. If we're publicly seen leaving with Ami then Usagi would probably follow along while trying to hide horribly and maybe Nagisa and Honoka might come along as well. No idea if Usagi would give Luna the slip or Luna might decide not to follow because Usagi is being silly, or follow to try to protect Usagi's virtue.
Well, hang on a tic here, guys. Are we trying to avoid bringing people along or do we want a crowd? I was under the impression that we wanted to be alone with Ami, which we can't do with an audience.
I think being alone with Ami is the ideal, but how are we supposed to do that without grabbing everyone else's attention anyway? Or at least Usagi's?
Well, let's do this. Let's suggest we go to the clearing, but mention that we should go separately, stating that it might give people the… wrong idea if we were to be seen going off together. Wording it like that is less just "Okay, meet me at this place at this time" and more a reason for her to THINK about the idea of going off alone with us and why that'd get people talking… and cue the blushing when she figures out what we mean.
This solves two problems. It doesn't hurt her feelings by suggesting we go separately, and more importantly it makes her start passively fantasizing about us, which works in our favor later on when we want her to start ACTIVELY fantasizing about us.
As for the others, most of them need to get home, get us out of their home, or go eat something before they comically collapse in the street. Especially for Usagi, as long as we don't give her a reason to want to follow us, food will override most of her other priorities.
So I say we make that suggestion, tell her to meet us at the clearing, and then when it's time to leave, do our "And now I must go" as we always do, but do the fake out and keep a watch from nearby. I fully agree with NOT leaving Ami alone to wander the city by herself, especially not to go to some secluded area to meet up with a strange man in a mask and bitchin' tux. So we either just hide out until she's clear and then jump out and join her the rest of the way, or just watch her like we're Batman. I'm leaning towards actually walking with her, myself.
While I don't think Usagi following us is that bad since it would also (possibly) give us a chance to be alone with her afterwards, I can support this.
Yeah, this is a plan that works. Good job guys =w=
One vote to go together.
Three votes to leave separately, but go to the clearing together.
Oddly, the bluenette mentioned her mother, but not her father. Wisely, you decide to stay away from that subject. "In that case we'll have a quick practice session. I'll meet you at the corner of the street when we're all done here."
"But why don't we just go… Oh." Ami turns away from you when the realization strikes, but you can see her face turn a deep red.
"I'll see you outside." You say as you finish wiping the table and head out of the kitchen. You help for a few more minutes before running into Yuuno again. "Any luck borrowing the books?"
"No." Yuuno shakes his head, "But Sakura invited me and Nanoha over as often as we want. I can't wait to read about the history of this planet!"
You chuckle at the ferret's excitement and he soon scampers off.
While an exhausted Sakura is thanking everyone for helping, you slip out of the house first. Outside, you see Luna napping on the white wall around Sakura's house. The late afternoon sun has done a good job drying her off. She eyes you as you pass by, but doesn't otherwise acknowledge your existence, going back to her nap when you reach the sidewalk.
The immediate area around Sakura's house is OK, but the street and yards are horribly torn up in both directions. The trees truly did a number on the neighborhood. You head down the street to the corner that you agreed to meet Ami on and jump the wall into someone's yard.
You don't have to wait long as you timed your exit well. After a few minutes, you hear voices belonging to some of the girls passing by, later followed by a lone pair of footsteps that stop at the corner. Confident that that's Ami, you jump the wall and land beside the girl.
The girl jumps in shock and gives a surprised yelp.
"My apologies." Afterwards you add, "Shall we go?"
The two of you head off in silence towards the clearing where you helped the PreCures fight the tree-man and the tree. After a while, Ami gathers up the courage to ask you a question, "Tuxedo Kamen, this isn't a date, is it?"
What's your response?>Of course not. We're just going to practice.>Oh, no. That's for next time.>Not everything I do with a pretty girl constitutes a date.>No, but I understand if you feel that way when a handsome man asks you to accompany him.>Of course it is. That's why I asked you to come with me by yourself.>Write-in. [What?]
Torn between 3 and 4. Three strikes me as fairly flirty but not too forward. Not sure if it will jive with Ami though.
Screw it, voting for three unless someone comes up with something better.
I love every answer here, even the first one.
Why? Because it could easily be spun as a practice date, since he wasn't specific.
Anyway, I think I'm going to sleep on this one and see if anyone else has any ideas beyond that go with/against Neal's vote, but I'm leaning towards a write-in just slightly more forward than 3 and 4, and go with a line like "Business first, but I'm sure we could find something to do after the practice if you wanted." Just something that honestly answers her question but flirts enough to keep her a little flustered and not bring the mood back down to an awkward silence.
Perhaps a modified three then?>"Not everything I do with a pretty girl constitutes a date, but since you're offering maybe after we finish our practice session if you're feeling up for it?"
Hmm, I dunno. I'm not really digging how three sort of sounds like a defensive response. Like the tone is supposed to be "Not EVERYTHING I do is perverted, god." I'd rather call it closer to a modified 4 or just a write-in response.
Fair enough. I was mostly focusing on the part where we'd call her a pretty girl. Thought it was more of a gentle teasing.
I'm down with a modded 4, however, I have a bit of concern that if we start calling it a date, that she'll think she gets to claim us alone. Though maybe that's just me being paranoid.
Yeah, that's part of why I'm hoping to keep her from actually thinking of it as one while still entertaining the thought of going on one with us, but still keeping her off her game with the teasing so that she doesn't think about it seriously enough that she actually goes "Y'know what, sure. Let's go on a date." As much as I'd love to build some serious points with Ami in that direction, it'd be a case of "too much, too fast" in the grand scheme of the harem building by more or less jumping her from a Rank 2 to about a Rank 5-6 on the Social Link scale while everyone else is still somewhere between 1-4 at best.
This sounds good to me. I've been going back and forth, but for the effect we want, this is the option that I like best.
Shadow, it sounds like you meant to go with a modded 3 based off of context, but typo or not, I'm leaving your vote as it is.
"Business first, but I'm sure we could find something to do after the practice if you wanted."
"Oh, no." She stammers. "I mean, aren't you and… you know?"
With a slight chuckle you reply, "It's nothing quite that serious yet."
"I thought you two were…" Her voice trails off and you can see her hands fidgeting nervously.
The people that are out are mostly dealing with the damage caused by the sudden growth of trees. Although the damage is not as extensive as it was around Sakura's house, there's still plenty of damage to the sidewalks, lawns, and greenbelts. Fortunately, you don't see too many damaged houses.
Soon you reach the head of the nature trail. A little further down the street is the park where everyone fought the youma. "At the end of the trail is a nice clearing. We should be able to practice there." Glancing at Ami, you see the bluenette glancing in the direction of the park. It looks like somethings on the tip of her tongue, but the bluenette doesn't share what's on her mind.
Keeping up some small talk, you tell Ami about the fight that you and the four Cures had here against Karehaan and a tree monster before coming to help her and Sailor Moon. "With Cures Bloom and Egret joining the team, you're no longer the new girl. You'll have to be ready to give them some pointers if your juniors ask for help."
"That's right." Ami agrees. "In that case, please teach me everything you can."
"Everything's going to take a while, but we have time to go over the basics today."
Reaching the end of the trail, you notice that all of the trees surrounding the clearing are back to normal. They no longer have that twisted shape that they had earlier. "This looks like a good place to practice." There's an orange bike resting against a large tree at the edge of the clearing, but there's no sign of anyone else here. "Let's see the best way to start is…"
>For you to transform in Sailor Mercury.>For you to stay in your civilian form.>Write-in. [What?]
Took me a bit to find it, but that bike is Saki/Cure Bloom's, so she must've left it here when shit went down in the forest earlier. If she's not here now, there may be a point later where she shows up to try and retrieve it, so we should keep that in mind. Depending on her timing, it'd either be in the middle of us doing this thing with Ami, which means we'd either have to cut it short and hide or risk having Saki watching the whole thing from behind a tree (which opens up an entirely new set of options for Saki herself, yay for voyeurism, but would still cause some issues with the matter of Ami) or she shows up after Ami leaves, which would give us a chance to one-on-one with her directly. The later is the more preferable of the two, but the former's more likely given our luck and the tropes of the genre. I'd absolutely prefer to avoid Saki seeing us doing anything with Ami and getting the "wrong" idea, since she doesn't know us well enough yet to fall for any spin we might try to put on the explanation later when it inevitably comes up again. So definitely putting down a write-in detail of "Note the goddamn bike and spread your senses out just in case someone comes up on us." And sadly, I checked, Mamoru was the one that saw her on the bike, so Kamen doesn't know to associate it. We have to just be careful.
Anyway, as for whether Ami should henshin or not, I think it depends on how seriously we're taking this training session. If we're just giving her some CQC training, it might actually be better for the lesson if we compare how strong she is normally against how she does as Mercury. If we want this to get a little… distracted from the lesson, well.
Her school uniform would be easier to… adjust should we happen to show her a hold or a throw of some kind, but she'd probably not take kindly to anything happening to get it damaged or dirty. Her Senshi outfit, meanwhile, doesn't hide much and can take a lot more punishment, but the likely odds of an "accident" happening that we have plausible deniability for are quite a bit lower. We'd have to actively try to damage her Mercury outfit, and that'd give that game away pretty quick if we did.
So, those are my observations. Anyone else got anything? I could go either way on the henshin, myself.
>>42348>Took me a bit to find it
Not all that long since you posted within 45 minutes of my post.
Also, following up on the Switch discussion from earlier, there was a bootrom vulnerability published for the Switch, so I got it and Fire Emblem Warriors earlier than I had planned. It can join my boot2 Wii. However, I decided that it was more important to post an update yesterday than to set it up, so it's still in the box.
People always comment about how I'm one of if not usually the first person to post, it's usually just because I'm lucky enough to be online and check the board right around when an update goes up.
Re: Warriors, nice. Does that allow you access to the DLC?
Like I said, I haven't fired it up yet, but from what I read, I need to buy the season pass to get all the DLC. I haven't done any hacking on it yet since there's no CFW out, and the guide I read says the best thing to do now is to connect online and then disable updates.
I do feel that you have a point about some of the pitfalls in training her in her transformed state, but remember that she'll do most of her fighting in her transformed state. It might be best to teach her how fight in that state. I also think that our plausible deniability is just as low if she's in her normal form then in her sailor form.
I'll vote for having her transform into Mercury.
Oh, to clarify since you brought that up, I meant comparison as in to actually start the lesson with her normal and then have her henshin so as to help gauge exactly how much of a difference the transformation makes in her physical strength, which could potentially lead to a difference in how we train her/what we might show her that someone could pull off with a higher strength level but be totally unable to do as a normal person. Just in case that matters.
I say ask her to henshin. She'll be fighting like that most of the time, and we can at least look at her if nothing else.
Yeah, I'll go ahead and throw in with telling her to henshin, I mainly just wanted to throw the pros and cons out there so people were thinking about it.
I'm still going with my add-in of keeping a goddamn eye out for anyone (Saki) stumbling across us, though. It's basically Shoujo Tropes 101 to stumble across the guy you may or may not like or could possibly come to like if the creator thinks the ship is cute enough in the middle of a conversation/situation that you were definitely not intended to overhear/be a witness to, and I really don't want to fall for such a basic goddamn pitfall.
Ah! All the discussion happened before I got here…
Well, anyway, I'll be the contrarian today, and put my vote towards keeping her in normal form for now. We can always tell her when she'll need to power up.
Uhh, shoot it out of her hand and say the first lesson is to not transform right directly in front of your oponent, or if you don't have a choice anticipate getting attacked?
Not sure what we're supposed to react to.
You reflexively swing your hand in Ami's direction. You miss her transformation pen, but your hand up against some kind of ribbon that slips out of your grasp.
A few moments later, Sailor Mercury stands beside you, posed for battle.
You rub your eyes until the pain of the bright flash goes away.
"Are you OK?"
"I'm fine, I just stood a little too close to your transformation."
>Surprise quick time event failed.
What's the general idea for the training session?>Write-in. [What?]
>>42420>Makes a comment about how he's usually the first one around when an update happens
>The next update happens long after he's gone to bed for the night
…I'm on to you, Moe. -Narrows eyes-
Anyway, I'm going to admit I'm not much of a martial artist, but when it comes to teaching, I believe in playing to your strengths. Ami's strengths are support rather than direct fighting, and while she shouldn't ever fight anyone head on, she does have the makings of a good sneaking style with the Shabon Spray, and I say we groom her physical game towards that.
Ideally, Ami would never be on her own in a situation or separated from backup to begin with, but I say we teach her how to get away from an opponent that has her dead to rights, throws and dodging and maybe one or two good kick or punch combos. Stuff that lets her stun an opponent long enough to make some distance and summon the fog, and then once she has the visibility cover, go full fucking Assassin class and teach her how to strike from the sides and back, aim for the back of the legs or head, and generally just beat the fuck out of her opponent while they can't see her before making herself scarce and getting backup. Ami lacks the firepower necessary to finish fights, but if we have her use her talents the right way, she can damn sure win them before backup gets there.
Thanks for the analysis Blue. I'm down with this. We teach her to use her limited physical ability to it's max by leveraging her ability to hide and evade.
This, definitely, but let's not sell her too short, especially if she gets the chance to learn how to fight from the Cures.
See, the thing about Ami is that the manga plays her closer to the kuudere trope (except she's also so FILTHY RICH in the manga that she doesn't care when Venus accidentally punctures some of her apartment's MARBLE FLOORING with the Wink Chain Sword.)
Anime Ami is not as disgustingly wealthy, but she shows off more of her comedic traits (like being quick on the draw when things get suggestive), along with her curiosity and natural pace of learning (she can do chess, swimming, automotive engineering, she has that old park ranger friend, etc.) But the other thing about anime Ami?
She's halfway to a serious case of bloodlust. There has been at least one fight where her determined look has been offset by this savage little grin that changes her expression from "fighting to protect the innocent" to "fighting to wreck someone's shit."
For another example, see the DD Girls at the end of season 1. One of them is about to kill Ami, and her final act is to smash its face in with the Mercury Computer, causing a mutual destruction scenario. Once she starts getting used to things, she'll be kind of a terror in a fight. So yeah, train her in hit-and-run. Train her to fight elegantly, but also fight dirty. That's how Ami works.
(Also, we could've delayed the QTE to a better time if you guys had gone with my vote from last time :P)
I'm not much of a martial artist either; I only made it to blue belt in Shotokan style before I decided to do amateur theater. However, I agree that we need to play to Ami's strengths. So I suggest that Tuxie ask what Ami believes she's good at and how she could improve on those talents.
Then, as a particularly diminutive femanon, I suggest Ami study judo and aikido. Judo promotes subduing an opponent by using joint locks, and using said opponent's momentum and size against them. A girl's center of gravity is in her hips, and as a petite person and a girl, Ami's is lower anyway, so she could use that to her advantage. Plus, due to her more pacifistic nature, aikido's tenant of ending a fight while preventing injury to opponent and defender might appeal to her.
You're in luck! Those martial arts are Cure White's specialty (or at least judo is.)
However (sorry for double posting!), if you go by the anime as canon, Ami is…not really a pacifist when it comes down to it. She smirks during at least one of her fights, and the way that she defeats the DD Girl youma that chooses to fight her is intensely brutal. Granted, she also dies from that fight, so it's kind of justified, but still. If you go by the manga, then…well, actually, the girls as a whole are a bit more murder-y in the manga, since most of the sub-bosses don't exactly last any amount of time before being killed off horribly (blame Takeuchi's time constraints as a mangaka.)
So while judo and aikido would still probably work best for her (there should be that size chart link for the Senshi somewhere, though), I just wanted to clear up that Ami is scary when she gets the opportunity to be. And we should probably be glad that her only special attack for a while is foggy bubbles (again, going by the anime. I think she gets better attacks more quickly in the manga, because pacing.)
I'm not going to pretend I fully remember Ami's little bloodlust moments, but at the same time, I'm definitely going to say I feel much better with the idea of teaching her to go full Jack The Ripper in the fog with that information in mind.
…Dammit, now I just imagined Jack mixed up in all this somehow, and having a kawaii musume assassin follow Kamen around everywhere. And yet I could never pull her in FGO before I quit. -_-
True, I forgot to take different canons into account. But I'll still stick with my vote for practicality's sake.
That's fine, I just figured that it's something we should know for later.
When Ami gets more ice powers we could see if she can make herself a icicle knife and try that route.>F/GO
Been playing the English version for a while. Fun game but it's a damn money hole.
If I wasn't a cheap SOB, I would be whaling so hard on these types of games. They feed into all of my addictions (video games, collectathons, cute girls).
Fortunately, I'm cheap so I don't spend money on them, plus I know that sooner or later the server is going to go down, and then I lose everything. It's why I don't like cloud-based games. Also, the fact that they rely on event-exclusives keeps me at bay, because unless I'm a first adopter, and a massive whale, I'm never going to collect them all.
Specifically, I started playing Hentai Heroes recently (seriously, I think it's the first time a popup has worked on me). It's kind of grindy, no real game to it, and it's transparent how much they're whoring for you to buy the premium currency. On top of it, there are event exclusive girls, but to be fair, they do revival events, so I guess I can forgive them on that specific point.
Yeah, I pretty much quit FGO cold turkey after I realized I'd lost around four hundred bucks to it and the event exclusive stuff just kept coming, so I'd have to drop working through the actual story stuff to focus on it, which meant I'd need to buy quartzes if I wanted anything, and it just never stopped, and I couldn't keep up with it anymore. I just had to say no and delete the whole thing off my phone.
Ironically, my phone's been working great since. It's a cheap piece of crap that couldn't handle a game like FGO on it in the first place, so giving it up gave the thing a second lease on life.
>>42499>having a kawaii musume assassin follow Kamen around everywhere.>>42514>make herself a icicle knife and try that route.
You guys are giving me ideas on top of my ideas.
Well, yeah. And besides, who wouldn't want an adorable murder daughter following you around to smite your enemies for you and receive headpats afterwards? Or any other time, really. I don't mind giving those out pretty much whenever.
>>42534>adorable murder daughter following you around to smite your enemies for you and receive headpats afterwards?
There's already three of those in, although you can only have one at a time, and one of them really loves headpats. Assassin-Ami would be the fourth in the group. However, she really synergizes well with two of TK's powers that you guys haven't unlocked yet.
Ami's not really a murder daughter, though. A murder daughter requires a two to three foot difference in height and for them to call us Papa for it to really set off the "Ughuuuu~" feeling. Though it's nice to know we've got shit we can use for Dual Techs once we unlock them.
…Okay, I just made that reference on a whim, but now that I have said the term out loud, I may be making another post in discussion about this soon.
Oh, and two of those murder musumes would be Chibi and Vivio, but who's the third?
By the way double-posting but fuck the haters I'm Midnight Blue, but I'm also going to throw in that we should test using our magic on our arms during this, just to see if there's any effect. Our whole body if we can work it in, but focus on just the arms at first. I want to see if it enhances our strength/durability any while we're working with Ami.
You look over Mercury and think back to her previous fights that you witnessed. While playing back her fight, you notice that the seam connecting the main body of Sailor Mercury's leotard to the thicker fabric covering her breasts isn't perfectly fitting, and you can see a small bit of the bluenette's upper abdomen. For a short while, your thoughts wander and you think if you could perhaps be responsible for that. You leave the thought for later as you're supposed to be helping her practice fighting.
She's a smaller girl, so you figure an art that focuses more on redirection of energy like Judo or Aikido would be useful for her. Of course, towering over the Tokyo skyline at 191cm makes every girl look short. A closer look gives you an estimate she's a little less than a head shorter than you, which gives her at least 10 centimeters over Sailor Moon. You mentally shake your head, Sailor Mercury carries herself so demurely that she looks shorter than she actually is. None of that makes judo a bad option, you just have to adjust your mental image of Mercury to be bustier and taller to match reality.
So far, she's been doing well when fighting at a distance, or helping finding targets with her visor. It would certainly do her well to get comfortable learning how to open the distance between her and her opponent. Settling on a rough idea of what to do, you explain to her, "The two most critical parts of fighting are to make sure that you have a fighting style that plays to your strengths and covers your weaknesses, and to make sure that your lizard brain knows how to fight. If something unexpected happens, you won't have time to think. Your lizard brain will react first. My job is to make sure the lizard does the right thing." You throw a punch at Sailor Mercury, but pull back before you contact her.
Sailor Mercury yelps in surprise and brings her arms up to protect her face. If you hadn't been holding back your punch, she wouldn't have covered her face in time.
"That's what I mean. You should have dodged, or tried to deflect my punch instead of blocking. However, the lizard didn't know what to do, so it reacted by blocking. It's not the worst response, but it was nowhere near fast enough. Unfortunately, the only way to learn that is to drill. You'll have to practice until this is natural for you. What we can do today is to teach you how to get out of a disadvantageous position and into an advantageous one."
Ami nods as you lecture. Taking the role of the student, she listens attentively, trying to absorb the lesson you're giving her.
"Seeing how you fight, I think you'd be best off holding back. That way you can attack with your water balls, control your fog, and use your visor to help coordinate the fight, all without having to worry about hand-to-hand combat." A thought of Ami sneaking through her fog like an assassin goes through your mind and you add, "Or at least not for now.
"Let's start with some simple one-steps." You catch yourself, "No, we need to go even more basic than that. Basic moves first. Stand in front of me, and mirror me. Bow. Ready position." In time with your commands, you and Mercury bow, then you cross your arms in front of your chest, then bring them down so you're making a roughly O shape with your arms and your hands are at your belt. "Good. Point your left hand to mark your target, right hand to your waist." You point to her with your right, making sure Ami mirrors your properly, and bring your left fist, fingers up, to your waist.
"Pull back your left hand, and bring your right forward." Demonstrating in slow motion you comment, "Your fists will rotate, the one punching rotates to be palm down, the one returning rotates to be palm up. Exhale as you punch, you'll end up mirroring where you started." You show her your fists, "Thumb over your fingers so it stays out of the way and you don't break it." Satisfied her fists are correct, your order, "Now, full speed." You punch at full speed and count, "One." Ami copies your move and you continue practicing her punches.
Once you're done teaching her how to punch, you also cover high blocks, and how to step while doing high blocks and punches. "Good. Now we can do a one-step. Face me." You get into position and in slow motion start throwing a punch at Mercury's face. "My punch is going high, so step back and do a high block." Sailor Mercury deflects your punch above her head and you comment, "Good, I missed you, and now I'm out of position and can't block. Right punch, left punch, right punch, then open the distance, and prepare a water ball."
The bluenette's punches connect with you. It looks like she's holding back her strikes, but with her strength enhanced from her transformation, her punches leave a mark. As you wince from the pain, she takes a few steps back, successfully opening the distance.
"How was that?"
"Very good. But I'll need to wear protective gear if I'm training you while you're transformed." You touch your chest and heal yourself. The tingling sensation replaces the pain, and then it disappears as well.
"Oh? Should I change back to normal?"
She needs to learn how to control her strength while she's transformed. Though I'm open to arguments otherwise.
Maybe I've lost my mind, but this could be a good training moment, to see if she can make something with extra protection (like ice armor???)
Also, thinking about it, will any girl need to hold back their magical strength against any of the stuff they face?
Most of the less defended magical girls have rivals or maybe villains that could also use the Mage Armor spell, but everything else is stuff that needs to be smacked around at MAXIMUM POWER.
So my vote is: to see if Ami can do an ice armor thing (it could be reasonably effective if placed right, and eventually she could maybe learn how to magically flex ice.)
Seeing as how we already had this conversation and my half and half idea was shot down, I'm gonna say no, let's have her stick with it. Instead, let's try focusing our magic onto our body when we know she's going to strike us, to see if that ups our defense. We should also INFORM her we're going to attempt that experiment so that we don't try it on a lark, she punches us, and then suddenly breaks her hand because we suddenly gained steel-strength skin like we're fucking Colossus or someone.
If the experiment works, by the way, I want us to continue doing it during her attacks for the rest of the lesson. Just like Ami needs to learn to throw a punch, having someone actively trying to punch us and learning the timing for a Pinpoint Defense System is something we need to practice at.>>42767
I'm not opposed to this, but let's do it a bit later on in the lesson. I don't want to derail too quickly. As for your question about holding back, uh… Nanoha and Fate are about the only ones who actively fight one another that I can think of off the top of my head, and Nanoha's first issue will be actually HITTING Fate, she's got the power output stuff figured out by the time she finally befriends her in canon. I can't think of anything else this early before the caffeine kicks in.
I'm not opposed to trying to do the point defense thing, though I'm not sure how much magic we have left.
No, don't change back. Like Nealend said, Ami needs to learn some control, so instead, let's semi-adopt Lim's thought and talk water, since Ami probably can't do ice right now or as soon as we'd like.
Y'know how if you fall into a body of water from some height, it hurts like a biiiitch? It's like hitting concrete, and the MythBusters proved that even breaking the surface tension before you land won't save you from injury.
Given that water can fit any shape, Ami should try to construct water-armor. This would give her lots of freedom of movement, and if it can be somehow enhanced, the perps trying to hit her could come away with impact damage. Knee to the gut? Busted kneecap. You kinda need those to walk. Kick to the thigh? Nope, there goes your ankle. Punch to the chest, and oh, I'm sorry, did you need that hand? Too bad, 'cause now your knuckles are broken. Stuff like that.
Probably enough that we can try it, at least in small bursts. We haven't really needed to do a huge amount of magic stuff this episode and we've had a number of breaks in between, so I'd say we've got a pretty decent chunk of our MP left.
Quite a lot actually. After leaching off of Nanoha earlier to top off, TK has healed his tailbone after slipping on the basement stairs, healed his chest now, and used the cape as a shield against the branches twice.
In other words, we've got a fuckton of MP right now. We can afford to play around with magic a bit.
Woohoo! A fellow Mythbusters fan! Now let us reject reality and substitute our own!
And to quote another meme, why not both? We can both work on our defenses while teaching her offense.
For the sake of clearing up my stance on this, I'm totally okay with the idea of us suggesting giving this a shot.
But let's just… get her past the basics first, before we start throwing elemental manipulation magic into the middle of the lesson?
That's fair. I'll still keep my vote as a benchmark, just in case.
"No, no. Let's keep going. I have a few things for each of us to try. You need to learn how to pull back your punches during practice, but first, I have something I want to try. One more time. Don't be surprised if something's different this time when you hit me."
You perform the one-step with Mercury again, but this time you force a buildup of your magical energy in the spots where you expect Mercury to punch you in the chest. You still take the recoil from the attack, but it feels like Mercury punched you with gloves on, and the soreness disappears moments later. "Did that feel any different for you?"
The bluenette shakes her head.
"One more punch, right here." You point to your sternum.
"Are you sure." With a nod from you, she punches you again.
You build up your magical energy again and focus closely on what's happening. Sailor Mercury's punch hits you with transformation-empowered force. With your full focus on the point of contact, you feel an instant stab of pain that's immediately wiped away thanks to your healing energy. The secondary damage that would normally lead to a bruise, and its associated soreness takes only a few moments longer to wash away.
>It's getting Macross in here because you just unlocked:>Innate skill: Pinpoint Barrier: focus your healing magic in anticipation of a hit and heal damage as it happens.
"Interesting, I'm healing from the strike as it's happening. That'll make practice easier, but don't throw your punches at full strength. Back to practice."
You repeat the one step a few more times before bringing up the next thing to try practicing. "That's good for now. I had a few ideas you could try. I was thinking something along the lines of either water armor or ice armor."
"I don't know how to do that."
"That's why we're practicing. You can make balls of water and your fog is cold, so try shaping your water balls into something resembling armor, then we'll test it out. Afterwards, we can try the ice armor."
"OK." Mercury closes her eyes and visibly focuses, creating multiple balls of water in the palms of her hand. Instead of launching the forward, she slowly brings the up in front of her torso. A few of the water balls get too close to each other and merge into larger balls, which cover less area. "That's as good as I can get it."
"OK, let's try it out." Getting an affirmative nod from your training partner, you punch her in the stomach, the water barrier doing almost nothing to stop your punch.
Sailor Mercury's control over the water breaks down and the water falls down, getting your right arm wet and her entire front.
Once more you're treated to a view of her in a wet uniform. You notice that her uniform is slightly damaged where you struck her. "Well, that was a failure. I hope the punch didn't hurt too much."
Sailor Mercury tries to wipe the water off of her, but it doesn't really help her when she's this soaked. "Not really. I could feel the force of the impact and it startled me, but it didn't really hurt."
Your thoughts turn back to Luna's explanation of how Sailor Moon's uniform works. It feels like it's been years since the black cat explained how Sailor Moon's uniform redirected any damage that the blonde heroine took to her uniform. "You must have the same protection on your uniform as Sailor Moon. It absorbs damage to protect you. I guess that negates the purpose of water armor, although ice armor might still be useful because it'll hurt anyone that tries to attack you."
"If you say so." The bluenette doesn't seem fully convinced, but she tries anyways. Like last time, she brings a few balls of water in from of her torso, then fog starts forming near her hands. You can already tells this is impractical due to the time it's going to take to freeze the water, but you let her continue; even if it's not practical to form during combat, it might still have other purposes.
After a minute, ice crystals start forming on the water balls and on Mercury's outfit. A little later the bluenette drops the water balls on the ground and shivers. "It's too cold." She complains.
The cold has made her nipples stand at attention and tent her uniform despite the fact that the fabric is thicker over her breasts to prevent such a thing.
"That's alright. We can mark those up as failures. You still have your uniform functioning as armor, so you at least have that level of protection. It's getting late, but we can still do a few drills before we call it a night."
"Are you two practicing fighting?" A new voice calls out.
You look behind you and see Hyuuga Saki jogging up to you and Mercury.
"I forgot my bike when we fought here earlier. That looks fun, but I can't transform without Mai."
>Not a problem. We're done with the transformation part.>I'll be sure to give you and Mai a few fighting tips for next time.>Write-in. [What?]
*Ponders this turn of events*
So it's not quite what I was thinking it'd be, but pre-emptive healing is still a pretty good thing to have. It's basically like using a Quick Restoration card in 100% Orange Juice, where any damage you take during the battle you use it in, as long as you aren't KO'd, will just heal itself back after the fight's over.
As for the water/ice armor… *Shrugs* It was definitely worth a shot, but no big loss without it. Generally speaking, ice/stone/crystal type armor covering oneself is kind of a villain thing anyway. In context, it's usually because the enemy in question has a high enough control over their given element that they can coat themselves in it without any adverse effects, but really, it's so the good guys can fight an obviously less humanoid opponent that clearly has the power and defense advantage over them. Sucks that Ami can't do it, at least for now, but it's still worth revisiting later on once she gets stronger or gains some sort of cold resistance. I'm not complaining about the effects it currently has on her, though.
As for Saki, the given options are to either have Ami de-henshin so she can join in, which brings Saki into the lesson but basically cuts us off from being able to do anything else specifically with Ami and us all alone, or we sorta blow her off which cuts us off from being able to work up any points with Saki tonight, and I'm a little unhappy with the way the line is worded because it's said in a way that would make it easy for Ami to blink and think "Oh, I guess he's doing this sort of thing with everyone…" which would kind of negate the point of bringing her out here like this in the first place and making her feel like we're doing this with just her. Which, ironically, she IS the only one we've done this whole private session thing with so far, now that I think about it.
I'm leaning in favor of going the safer route of the two and picking Option 1. Anyone else got any thoughts on it?
With ice armor probably a no go, we could wait until she gets powerful enough to flash freeze stuff and have her experiment with generating ice shields and barriers to block incoming attacks.
Anyways I agree with having Ami detransform now and have Saki join in.
I say that we ask Ami if it's okay for her to join us, and if she says yes, then we check with both girls to make sure that they're not out too late.
Good point about asking Ami if it's okay for Saki to join in, but I'm sure the girls can keep their own track of time.
I'm with Shadow. Asking about the time will remind the girls about their civilian responsibilities, so they can budget their time and get home with enough to spare once the sparring's done.