>>2576 Used to be churches or places of worship and the Natl Org of Women, SPLC and ADL empowering crap: making women work harder while men are doing hardly anything in their soon to divorce "sex egalitarian" marriage. This country (USA) is failing all thanks to Biden, as well dumbass Trump the GOP has abandoned, Obama "had to be elected" and the PC SJW worship of messiahs Hillary and Bill Clinton, Kamala Harris. And the religious right neocons erected the Bush family and Reagan as second comings of Christ. We wanna go back to the 90s or maybe the 50s. Boomers rebelled against their parents by civil rights activism, gave Vietnam away to commies they still hated, supported the troops in Iraq that made the war on terror worse, and they tell us to not hate Saudis, Israel, China, Mexico, Blacks and our colonized Natives. I sense we're becoming a Nazbol country where the (((new riche))) will be exterminated and all the neos uniparty congress is replaced by an all full blood white, all manly men, atheist and socialist regime. Happy 250th birthday, USA: time to put the 95%/3rd estate/genetically or chromosomally diverse (LOL) to sleep.

We're not schizos, we're just angry at the political and moral BS, we tend to be not normies who like or love pregnant women or men, and everyone is like "put us in the gas chambers first and fastest to protect women, girls, boys, kids or families". And I don't wanna hear a pregnant single MILF slut (hey, they claim these terms, it's alright) complain about not able to find a man to date, live with or f*ck before the baby's born, but the tiktok trollling they're acting drives potential lovers away , and there will be less marriages or children in society. Race relations is bad, gender relations is bad, LGBT accepted but still marginalized and there's no middle class anymore in a recession the rich feel it's 1929 again - did the PPP loans helped?

>>2570 >>2571 "Don't mansplain, appropriate, be a savior, center yourself/other everyone else and esp. sexualize women". - Barbie movie had these messages sporadically found to preach how to behave for everyone to be involved or participate in allyship, SJwoke capitalism or corporatism passing off as activism.

Jesus fucking Christ. I don't think a person could possibly try harder in proclaiming that they get all their political views from TikTok than the people in this thread.

>>2583 The recent absolute flooding of it is almost entirely down to a single known schizo who has been doing this for years, and basically singlehandedly filled his entire containment thread on lolcow. This has long since moved beyond serious political discussion lmao. That said, could we maybe get this autosaged so it stays off the front page, Couchy? Especially since Kisame has made it his personal schizo soapbox.

>>2584 I am barely on this site to be a super villain and Kiwi farms is old news.

>>2583 I live in small town suburbs of NY. I don't know what TikTok is. Biden is losing to Gen Z because he's an elderly Silent Generation boomer. The beat generation and hippie generation were about reclaiming the slums and fucking raw. Biden is the grandson of an oil exec and car salesman. He's not a genuine Christian like the Trump's who were Presbyterian and accomplished engineers.

>>2578 Everyone I interact with is Latino, Korean, Sikh, Muslim, Asian. None of us look like the fucking Cosby kids or Captain Planet. Nobody told the Jew to build their temple off a five lane highway.

>>2581 The far right cares about Mosiach. >>2588 I've been upfront that Jews should just embrace Power Girl with Mosiach rack instead of rebbe. They should embrace Sephiroth.

>>2586 Most of Gen Z hates Biden, but they hate Trump even more retard.

>>2586 this is the most retard shit I read today. Gen Z dislikes Biden but they fucking despise Trump and will go out of their way to vote for Biden just to spite Trump

>>2590 Kisame here. Trump is not dominating the news cycle as the narrative has gotten repetitive. Gen Z hates Biden because the current president believes in the liberal world order. The counter culture movement like hippies and beat generation never liked establishment. The counter culture movement was about reclaiming the ghetto from the squares. Nixon made Amtrak, Eisenhower made the Interstate, Reagan had commercialism. Gen Z doesn't care for Woodrow Wilson, FDR, or Johnson.

>>2591 Gen Z hates Kamala Harris and Joe Biden because they're suburban liberals who owns the police force, hospitals, transportation and military. Student debt is like 100k for lawyers cause Notre Dame, Ivy Leagues are expensive. They're not going to show up because CNN and MSNBC airs Trump stories. African Americans and Latinos have said they support Trump because they want cheap goods and medical bills. Trooning is just a stupid attempt at making cyborg boomers and super soldiers who will die in the trenches of Ukraine and Gaza to save Biden's reelection. Trump is already banned from traditional media. Dems forgot that they need wall to wall coverage of him since Biden is losing 4 points to Trump in six states

>>2588 >>2590 >>2591 Don't argue with him, you three; Sir Schizo-Shitlips here is living in his own deluded world. If you want to taunt him for the laughs, go right ahead, but just like...sage it, and don't waste any actual energy on trying to genuinely engage with him. Fucker has been this deluded for years, he's not going to stop now.

>>2592 Liberals are more right wing than Progressives and Conservatives who lean Left prefer to be called Libertarians.

>>2595 Progressive was a turn of the 20th century term of movements that produced fascism, racism and communism, and promoted eugenics, sexual repression and cultural conformity.

>>2586 Many Latinos/as don't like the Left for 3 reasons: 1. The term Latinx is the 6-letter word, the X word and even insulting to feminists, non-binary and LGBTQ, Jewish and BIPOC, and allies in the social justice movement, it's not a real word in standard Spanish whether in Spain and Latin America, and the small subset who used Latinx (4chan admittedly tricked them in the late 2010s) now want to adopt "Latine" as a new non-malecentric, gender neutral and less machismo style way of a collective term of 25 nationalities of Spanish and Portuguese origin in the Americas and western hemisphere plus former Spanish or Mexican ruled border states TX, NM, AZ and CA. 2. actually, lumping Hispanic/Latino persons in the people of color category isn't fully received, and they blamed that issue on liberal racists LBJ, Nixon and Goldwater, their affirmative action policy is very racial and based on biological race theory, even though the category isn't racial at all, it's ethn linguistic, and liberals argue conservative SCOTUS judges are practicing color blindness, there should be repatriations for pre-21st century immigration Hispanics (also a not so liked term, ask Cheech Marin who popularized the term Chicano for himself) we know as a country there are conservative Latins and many like the anti-Castro Cuban community concentrated in south FL are the most registered Republican ethnic groups, are quite Americanized, its some of their (grand) parents obsessed with remaining Cuban without actually setting foot in the home island 100 miles away still never learning any English. and 3. 2nd generation born to Central and South American immigrants aren't the same like US-born Mexicans like Tejanos, Hispanos and Chicanos...or Puerto Ricans in the 50s. I know the earlier generation Mexican Americans and stateside Puerto Ricans are said to emulate urban Black culture, but earlier immigrants and the first Spanish Americans in the southwest US were labeled white before the 1930s when they were lumped as a Mexican race, Indians (or the "Asiatic-Mongoloid-Oriental"race) or coloreds (the lumping with Blacks came in), even comparing Spaniards who are Caucasians from Europe with Jews, Arabs, Roma people and Asian Indians as if they are "brown" or "mulato" type of Europeans, noticed the 1930s Mexican immigrants were into intermarrying white ethnic catholics (Italians are compatible until the war Italians became white like French Canadians, Poles, Germans and Irish), Chinese or Japanese (and many Filipinos), Armenians, Asian Indians, Pacific Islanders and of course, California tribes, but until WW2, they couldn't marry Blacks other than they may cohabit with them (which was a taboo anyway). In Coachella Valley CA where I live: its perfectly OK for a person with a mustache wear a dress (esp indigenous Mexicans, the majority of immigrants, came with legal permission with, and had amnesty for overstaying their work visas have that concept of gender identity diversity), just don't assume all will refer to themselves as Latinx (or Hispanic or even Mexican), and be in mind there are Black, mixed with Anglo (northern Mexico had many 1800s-era Germans), Chinese / Japanese/ Korean (Mexicali-calexico), and even (mostly Christian) Arab Mexicans and Latinos.

>>2593 Since Bill-ary Clinton, Liberal became corporate and the split in the Democrats/Left movement after the end of the cold war developed the neo progressive, because neoLiberal is another way of a neoconservative, and PC activism in the 90s was white men infantilizing women and BIPOC to avoid their corporations getting sued or litigation issues.

>>2587 In the area I lived in (I hope I won't get doxxed), there are white Anglo kids who say they are of Irish, Italian, Greek, Portuguese, Ukrainian and ex-Yugoslav descent, even Canadians, Texans and Mormons - The term white is becoming like the term Nordic after the Nazis ruined it, as well the KKK: Nobody wants to be white anymore, the 1940s-60s cold war propaganda of whitening any one who has not a single drop of "negro" blood, which I'm sure was common in Northeastern and Midwestern working class whites: "black Irish, black Dutch, black Germans and black Swedes" and the "okies" in 1930s CA during the dust bowl magnified the great depression and segregation) - Gen Z is like "we aren't colorblind, but do we must have racial castes, and forced people to be the same culture, and many of us are half or 1/4 or 1/8 whatever, including Native Americans and Hawaiians, boomers need to stop playing the race card, esp white conservatives and black liberals , we're progressive Libertarians who want equality AND equity, just prove you need help in your life without branding ourselves like dogs and cattle".

This thread had so much potential and got killed ugh

>>2603 Mentioning anything trans on a chan board is like chumming the waters. If you want to discuss anything trans related, go to Twitter or Tumblr instead. Like seriously, never expect a rational discussion on an anonymous messaging board unless it comes to tits or asses. Or in our case, bellies and pregnancy.

>>2604 >Like seriously, never expect a rational discussion FTFY

>>2604 Thread would've been kino if the phobes just ignored it like rational people

To be fair, there were nuggets of rational discussion mixed in amongst the bullshit, which is kind of surprising in itself. With any luck, the VPN block system will hopefully at least cram a sock in Kisame's mouth, if not Maofag as well.

this thread, huh. Cisgender people who can't get pregnant have pregnancy fetishes, nobody panics. Trans people (particularly trans women) who can't get pregnant have pregnancy fetishes, and everyone loses their minds!

>>2639 A trans person getting off to pregnancy is like a flat earth theorist getting off to the idea the Earth is round. There's a clear conflict of interests.

>>2641 What you just typed out makes absolutely no sense.

>>2641 Not really? It's not like they're denying that pregnancy exists. Just because they biologically cannot have a child doesn't mean the idea of pregnancy can't turn them on. By that logic, it wouldn't make sense for men to be attracted to pregnancy either, but obviously that's not the case. Like, seriously, what exactly is your reasoning here?

>>2679 Shit bait; try harder, mong.

>>2680 Not baiting though? Trans people can't get pregnant and it makes no sense for them to be attracted to pregnancy at all.

>>2681 >it doesn't make sense to me so it shouldn't exist

>>2681 If you're not baiting, then by your dumb ass logic, it makes no sense for any dude to get off to pregnant chicks.

The whole thing is autogynophilia, a profound form of narcissism. The fact that these men see womanhood as naught but a collection of stereotypes instead of a biological reality is abhorrent. One would be hard pressed to find a female-identifying man who felt more feminine for traditionally womanly traits like being nurturing, cooperative, agreeable, or empathetic. What makes them believe themselves to be women are things like enjoying wearing women's clothing and being sexually submissive. Meanwhile tomboys and lesbians are being erased and pushed to hate their own bodies. Moreover, the lesbians who resist struggle to find their own spaces away from the autogynophiles who demand sex. The TQs are working against the LGBs with medicalizing non-conformity and reaffirming sex stereotypes. The fact that it's all pushed so aggressively with no room for debate shows the movement's AstroTurf nature.

>>2686 Probably also bait, but fuck it, I'll bite on the off chance you're just misinformed. They do feel more feminine for demonstrating those traits, especially because society loves to shit on men for showing any emotional vulnerability. The reason they also want to physically resemble a woman is because every aspect helps them feel closer to their true self, simple as that. Your argument also doesn't account for trans men, either. Also, lumping queer in as being against the rest of it...certainly is a choice, to put it mildly lmao

>>2688 You're completely ignoring the fact that what the anon said was right. It is extremely misogynist to assume certain character traits define womanhood when there are predefined biological ones that actually do that. Like okay if a guy wants to take on femine social traits that's okay but it will never make them an actual woman. That's the problem with the transgender movement, it actively ignores reality which isn't good for any person. There are objective realities and ignoring those for the sake of one's emotions is extremely dangerous, it's the same thought process used to burn people at the stake for witchcraft. >being queer is a choice It's weird that the lgbt now uses the same argument Christian fundamentalists used to validate conversion therapy.

>>2689 Don't know how the fuck you got "being queer is a choice" out of "lumping queer in as being somehow against LGB is certainly a choice", but go off. Like, the meaning there is "you certainly made the choice to put forward that particular argument, huh?" Also, it's an objective reality that everyone is going to die one day, but I'm fairly confident the vast majority of the human population does their absolute best to ignore that fact. We all ignore realities for the sake of our emotions daily, because the reality is that life is fucking awful, and we're all just trying to get through it while avoiding what misery we can.

>>2690 >it's an objective reality that everyone is going to die one day, but I'm fairly confident the vast majority of the human population does their absolute best to ignore that fact. >life insurance is a thing >last wills are a thing >having children to pass on one's name is a thing >passing on traditions is a thing >preparing for retirement is a thing >remembrances for those that have passed away is a thing Anon every human on earth acknowledges their mortality and takes actions to accommodate for it. You'd have to be a reality denying idiot to ignore this.

>>2683 It doesn't, you're right, that's why pregnancy fetishism is rare. >>2688 Can people who defend troons make up their mind whether everyone is wildly transphobic, except for a small minority of world's population, or everyone absolutely loves troons deep down and is simply misinformed/baiting/being an edgelord? That would spare you a lot of mental gymnastics. >They do feel more feminine for demonstrating those traits, especially because society loves to shit on men for showing any emotional vulnerability. No, it doesn't? Even in the most conservative places you won't be shit on for being a man and showing your emotions. We're not in 1524 anymore, very few people will tell you to be a stone cold, emotionless bastard who doesn't think much. >>2690 If everyone will die, all life is misery and it's delusional to think otherwise why don't you neck yourself here and now? Spare yourself 40-50 years of suffering and just get to the end of it immediately.

>>2691 Are you constantly dwelling on the fact that you're going to die, though? Obviously it has to be acknowledged at times, but that doesn't change the fact that we don't particularly like fucking thinking about it. Avoiding pain/suffering is a basic fucking animal instinct, and for trans people, their own body is inherently causing them suffering. Transitioning is, if nothing else, a way to help ease that suffering. >>2692 Statistically speaking, at least in the US, the majority of people either support trans rights or are largely indifferent. I used to fall in the "indifferent" camp, and then I watched as the emotional state of several people I knew VASTLY improved once they started transitioning. It genuinely helps people, and I've seen it first-hand. The fact is, too many people are forgetting that these are real human beings just trying to live their lives, and not just some nebulous political talking point.

>>2700 Oh come on. You agree that there are realities in life that require that people accept them and then immediately argue the complete opposite all for the sake of trying to make transgenderism make sense. Sorry but you can't just ignore realities that upset you. One of the most important things we learn as humans is to come to term with absolutes outside our control and learn to accept and live with them. Transitioning isn't an end to suffering if anything it adds a whole slew inconveniences and pain. Bone degeneration, hair loss, loss of hormone regulation without medicine, increase in suicide, mutilation, physical trauma, mental trauma, tumors, and cancer are all verified side effects of HRT and Gender Reassignment surgery. Ironically the only transition that seems to be occuring is the transition of suffering one way into another. Trans people would by and large do better mentally if they came to terms and accepted their physically healthy bodies rather than trying to make it comport to their unhealthy minds

>>2701 One, I genuinely thank you for attempting to sage. Two, ignoring realities that upset us is exactly what we do with death as much as possible. We acknowledge it when forced to or out of pragmatism. And since when has a medication having side effects automatically meant they're useless? Some of the medications I take could fucking blow out my heart or essentially melt my liver, but I'd be fucking non-functional within society without them. The benefits outweigh the risks overall. It's not as simple as just "coming to terms with it"; that's like saying the solution to depression is to just stop being sad. That's literally not how it works. Look, in all seriousness, have you ever actually met someone who's trans in person? I'm speaking from experience when I say it can deeply change your perspective on it. I used to be quite a bit more critical of it, until I saw what it was actually like firsthand. (Oh, and for the record, for MTF individuals in particular, HRT actually tends to PREVENT hair loss, as it can prevent the onset of male-pattern baldness.)

>>2700 What if we look outside US or Western countries? Will you find overwhelming support for troon rights? >>2712 "I used to he critical of trannies until I met one and now I'm all for tranny rights and I will die for them". No, this shit won't work on me, try harder, trannyfucker.

>>2712 >have you ever actually met someone who's trans in person? Yes and they sexually assualted me and my best friend's fiancé

>>2714 If that's true, then I'm sorry you went through that. Can't exactly blame you for your opposition given those circumstances. I promise you, though, shitheads like that are fucking degenerates regardless of whether they're trans or not.

>>2712 >The thug who violently threatens to make people "swallow their own teeth" is mentally unstable and on cocktails of drugs. What a surprise Why are woke and antifa thug types always the most mentally sick people?

>>2726 Not even the same anon, fuckhead, but good job outing yourself, you tankie retard. And also, ADHD and mild autism do not make someone "mentally unstable". Your habit of vigorously jerking off what are OBJECTIVELY dictatorships, on the other hand, probably fucking qualifies.

I love to get a trans guy pregnant to show them that they will always will be a female

>>2953 True and real.