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Impregnator Kings, thread #16 aristocrat 06/28/2022 (Tue) 00:00:50 Id:66b045 No. 88
Impregnator Kings began as a project I wanted to try writing back in December 2015. There were many CYOAs on pregchan, and I thought I could entice readers to vote, too. Since then, we now have a story that has gone on since then (with some slowness on my part here and there) that continues today. I had no idea where we were starting from or how long and where exactly it would end, but we're still going strong. This despite several board jumps. This is the latest one. Please read the notes under this line. I often have to remind people of them, and while I don't mind doing so, it does take up a comment or two in the post count. Everyone is free to vote in Impregnator Kings when a poll is called for. This applies to everyone, whether they followed the story from the beginning, just started reading, or only just passingly noticed there's a vote. The only rule is to please only vote once in each poll. Posting your reasons and persuasive arguments for why you made a choice and why it is the best choice is encouraged. It helps me understand more about reader expectations and what the audience wants to read. However, please do not post side-discussions or emotional reactions in the thread. For those, please use the latest chat thread, located here: https://new.pregchan.com/c/res/36.html This will help keep down on the posts that count toward the post limit (and when I will have to make a new thread). It will also keep the atmosphere of the thread genial. I want every reader to be comfortable voting however they like. For clarity, please write your vote: "Option 1/2/3" or "Write in:". Please make this the first line, and then write whatever commentary you would like. This is for my sake and makes it much easier to tabulate and calculate which option has won. Of course, I will still count every vote regardless, but it makes it a little easier for me. Please don't write "I think option 4 is fine but now I vote 1." Instead, consider writing. "I vote option 1. At first I thought option 4 seemed fine but now I vote for option 1." This is much easier. Please also write out your full vote. Do not reply to another vote and say "I agree with this reply and vote for what they voted for." Please don't do this because there have been issues where a person has made a mistake in which reply they meant to click. Please be unambiguous with your vote. Write-ins are encouraged. If they are impossible because of a conflict of some character motivation or established facts about the world, I will note this and explain why it's impossible to the best of my ability and give the reader a chance to select a new option. There are also sometimes issues where someone proposes a write-in that combines two options. Depending on the situation, this can be acceptable or not. Feel free to ask, if you like. Furthermore, if there's a particular thing you want Edward to explore, or a particular sex-scene or type of character you want to see, by all means say so, either in the chat thread or when you vote. This lets me know audience expectations and wants, and has allowed me to take the story in interesting ways. (Certain characters and scenes may not have happened without knowing audience expectations and ideas.) You are writing the story with me! One last thing to note is no non-consensual sex scenes will be depicted in the story. It was decided to exclude these to maintain a positive tone throughout the story and will not be violated. For that matter, every character depicted in a sex scene is "of age." This means over 18. Birth scenes will eventually be available to witness or not, and will be to various degrees of depiction as I learn audience expectations.Furthermore, no life-threatening complications with pregnancy will be depicted. (But may be mentioned as having happened in the past, and they are still a worry for the characters in the story.) Thread #1: https://web.archive.org/web/20170619163636/http://pregchan.com/d/res/12251.html Thread #2: https://web.archive.org/web/20170619123902/http://pregchan.com/d/res/14131.html Thread #3: https://web.archive.org/web/20170619104842/http://pregchan.com/d/res/15553.html Thread #4: (warning, it was on bbw-chan and the link has a defunct connection to some pop-up ad. Just refresh and it should go away.) http://web.archive.org/web/20160412094726/http://bbw-chan.net/elite/res/536.html Thread #5: https://web.archive.org/web/20170619134833/http://pregchan.com/d/res/16909.html Thread #6: https://web.archive.org/web/20180307043453/https://pregchan.com/d/res/24119.html Thread #7: https://web.archive.org/web/20180930122947/https://pregchan.com/d/res/33943.html Thread #8: http://web.archive.org/web/20190601012420/https://pregchan.com/d/res/48104.html Thread #9: https://web.archive.org/web/20201013192858/https://pregchan.com/d/res/57807.html Thread #10: https://web.archive.org/web/20210303103506/https://pregchan.com/d/res/79111.html Thread #11: https://web.archive.org/web/20210517073757/https://pregchan.com/d/res/86445.html Thread #12: https://web.archive.org/web/20210628010408/https://pregchan.com/d/res/90879.html Thread #13: https://web.archive.org/web/20210901124305/https://pregchan.com/d/res/93297.html Thread #14: https://web.archive.org/web/20220321094845/https://pregchan.com/d/res/96873.html Thread #15: https://web.archive.org/web/20220620223133/https://pregchan.com/d/res/105852.html (Or https://pregchan.com/d/res/105852.html until the old pregchan is removed.) Don't be intimidated by the sheer size of the archive. It's a fast read, more or less, and I always do my best to keep it accessible. The first three threads likely set the tone the best in terms of intrigue the story contains and what Edward can do. There are many important characters, but these are the current loves Edward has: Tharja: Edward's dear wife. Their mutual trust changed their relationship from attraction and infatuation to love, very quickly. Mania: A more traditional 'witch' who came to the Faire to set up a cart selling her breast milk. Mutual consideration soon led to both exposing their hidden sides to each other. Love bloomed between them as they truly saw each for who they were. A character who is 'loved' will never betray Edward, and Edward will be happier to be around them, impregnate them, etc. But at the same time, he won't allow them to be harmed and other choices that consider their feelings will be 'locked in' without a choice being presented. Other possible love interest (at the moment): Beatrice: The Infinite Golden Witch. Fickle and capricious. She's sworn to serve Edward (up to a point) as repayment for the debt she owes him of saving her from being pursued by witch hunters. Now that Edward has seen her 'human' side, can he better understand the boundaries that separate her heart form his? Should he? Can he? Though that possibility seemed closed from a mistake months earlier, the window seems to be open again. The last thread ended on an update that needed no vote. Please wait and anticipate the newest update coming soon.
Well, my write-in sucks. When I said blades, I meant like kitchen knives and things peasants would readily have available. So, Option 4, I guess. And promise Margaret to Tharja.
>>2770 I'm afraid I can't accept this write-in, for the following reason: The peasant settlement is not that big that people could fit in disguised. People would recognize them. Some of the soldiers may even be former peasants and be recognized by friends or family. Furthermore, they are more fit, healthy, and well taken care of due to Robin's reforms. They will stick out immediately. But, if you're concerned about the Balance of Power, this will still result in Mania's satisfaction going down. Edward would likely pick this up about Mania's proposal: Mania wants Oana to have a fair chance. Having 'fail-safes' like soldiers in disguise or barking dogs 'just in case' will make her unhappy. In her mind, she hasn't already decided Oana is guilty. Oana IS guilty, and she wants that fairly known, no matter what Oana could take the free moment to say. (And indeed, taking the opportunity to spill whatever secrets Oana knows about Edward or the castle in general just proves her own guilty.) Is this the best solution? For Mania, it is. Keep in mind also, Mania wasn't at the aristocrat gathering where Oana made her move. Neither does she know the full extent of the conspiracy. But, I also advise readers to anticipate what Oana could possibly say. In the immediate sense, peasants aren't going to care if she claims some other aristocrats helped her in a conspiracy, and that would actually help Edward. Edward has already heard that his poisoning made himself a sort of 'martyr,' and that his reputation and popularity is currently high. Mania said openly in thread 13. ("...when sir was removed there was… much mourning. Sadness. 'Our friend in the castle is gone.'") And as a result, they hate the old entrenched aristocracy that caused it and let it happen. However, words of what she said may stick around as rumors that get spoken about. And then eventually those might find their way from peasants (or whoever else is there to witness the execution) to people who would care... Assuring Tharja later that Margaret will be made a 'gift' will be a thing that can be done at any time, and best addressed in a separate vote.
Option 3: Corrin's proposal. Much as I would like to have justice and a sort of trial, we'd be giving Oana an inch, and we know she would take a mile. Keep it practical and simple. >>2771 >>2772 Indeed, let's include giving Margaret to Tharja and Erika later. Her death can easily be covered up by a complication in giving birth or recovery afterwards.
First off, great to see the efforts of this endeavor still going strong overall! Said this before, but it bears repeating: this is practically the only actual content of note worth checking in on, and it's great to see IK still alive and kicking! As to the actual choice and casting an option: Option 6. Not sure if there has been or will ever be a choice that enjoins and satisfies both the Weird Sisters (the 3 witches) and the Church in one fell swoop, and this seems like the 'odd choice out' as such, so why not!
So far, my vote count is: >1 vote for choice three, Corrin's proposal: a cruel punishment to leave a lasting impression, for diplomatic reasons. >1 vote for option four, Mania's full proposal: the equivalent of a public trial in front of the peasants, allowing Oana to speak before being properly executed by axe. >1 vote for option six, Tharja's proposal: keep Oana alive in the dungeon as a gift for Erika. I know this is a hard choice. It's impossible to appeal to all sides, and every choice has positives and negatives that can possibly reverberate for a while. But, please continue to think. There is no hurry. This is also open to write-ins, but apologies again if I have to deny them, or say "This is basically option 3," to them. Please vote with whatever you like. Vote however you like. Whether it's for the type of Edward you like to see, whether it seems the option that would be best for Ruhemania, whether you want to favor one faction in the Balance of Power, or whether it seems like the one that could bring the most interesting plot development. I am not here to tell you how to vote. Other than to only vote once. Everyone is entitled to their one vote. Please continue to vote.
>>2775 I'll like to change my vote to option number 4 then.
>>2775 Option 3. My one concern with Mania's proposal isn't her swaying the populace, it's things she's saying getting out of the castle and coming back to bite us in the ass. Nobody who wasn't at the social knows what she said there, and nobody, not Ed, not the witches, knows what else she might decide to spew. Doesn't matter if it's lies, it could sow seeds of doubt and open us up to issues in the future- like what if she says something that opens a crack in our foundation that, say, Elbania could exploit? Who knows how far word could spread, especially if there's any spying afoot. Doubly so if anyone named Roger a Muirebe turns up. I've got more to say on the proposal of giving Margaret to Erika, but I'll save that for when the issue actually comes up.
Okay, I've heard two arguments against option 4, but I haven't heard two arguments *for* Option 3. Why side with Corrin on this one? It seems needlessly cruel and backs a faction we've never backed in the past. I just don't see why we should be backing Corrin. He's unproven as a diplomat and we're handing him greater influence with little justification. Siding with the witches or the populace seems to be Ed's significantly larger MO. I prefer Mania to have a greater presence in the council, but I recognize that's not everyone's cup of tea. Backing Corrin feels out of left field to me, though.
>>2778 It feels like the "default" option that I was expecting to begin with. Public statement of crimes, off with her head (or whatever fine detail of execution we end up on), life goes on for everyone else. I don't see it as any more cruel than any of the other options, and far less cruel than a few of them. As for why not Tharja's plan, my own feelings about witch influence aside, I think that Oana needs to have a public execution. Regardless of the fact that we know she'll end up dead or worse at Erika's hand, the public will think Oana was left to live out the rest of her days. It lets anyone else who might have ambition know that if they try something, we might not kill them and there's a chance any fellow conspirators could spring them later. She should be executed publicly, and for that I like option 3.
>>2777 Edward did allow the diplomats from Elbania to be there. They outright said they would report what had happened to their Queen. (In a good way.) The chaplain (before Tomas) and the burgmeister were also there and it's likely they also spread word of what happened.
>>2780 Fair point on that, but I'm still not eager to let Oana spread more poison and potentially have it taint future diplomacy.
Option six. Erika's arriving soon anyways.
By my count, we currently have: >2 votes for option three, Corrin's plan of a public and painful execution, for diplomatic and deterrent reasons, without being too excessive. >2 votes for option four, Mania's plan of a public trial, for doing fair justice and showing the peasants Edward is a good King. >2 votes for option six, Tharja's plan of letting Oana stay in the dungeon... until Erika arrives and can claim her as a 'gift'. (Also giving the witches an ongoing presence and voice in the Council.) That's a tie, but I think we can get more votes. Please continue to vote everyone. There's been a lot of interesting discussion and it's highly encouraged.
>>2783 Option 4.
>>2762 Option 3 Oana’s crime warrants an appropriate punishment to deter any other attempts at treason. We need to set an example to not only our subjects but to other kingdoms that we punish crimes accordingly. Not punishing the person who attempted regicide would have disastrous political results. There will be other opportunities to show off the military and we can attempt to find a less important sacrifice to appease Erika later.
We currently have: >3 votes for option three, Corrin's plan of a public and painful execution, for diplomatic and deterrent reasons, without being too excessive. >3 votes for option four, Mania's plan of a public trial, for doing fair justice and showing the peasants Edward is a good King. >2 votes for option six, Tharja's plan of letting Oana stay in the dungeon... until Erika arrives and can claim her as a 'gift'. (Also giving the witches an ongoing presence and voice in the Council.) This is still a tie, but one more vote could make it a three-way tie. The needle must fall eventually I'll give this until Monday or Tuesday. Voting will close on Wednesday at the very latest. If you have not used your one vote, I urge you to do so. If you have any questions, feel free to ask them and I will answer if possible. Even if the answer is: "Edward wouldn't know that." There is also the chat thread for discussion. I'm looking forward to seeing how the voting turns out. I'm also hoping this Balance of Power system remains intriguing. I hope it's enjoyable. Please continue to vote.
>>2783 > Option Six
>>2788 six
>>2788 Option 3
>>2788 Option 3
>>2788 Option 6. Tharja should have a seat on the council to represent the witches because we decided to parlay with them, so we need to keep them happy as well.
>>2788 I move to option 3.
For the sake of organizing after new votes and the one change, our current total is... >6 votes for option three, Corrin's plan of a public and painful execution, for diplomatic and deterrent reasons, without being too excessive. >2 votes for option four, Mania's plan of a public trial, for doing fair justice and showing the peasants Edward is a good King. >5 votes for option six, Tharja's plan of letting Oana stay alive in the dungeon... until Erika arrives and can 'harvest' her. (Also giving the witches an ongoing presence and voice in the Council.) I'd like to ask voters that they please vote with what they want to see, not with what they think is winning. The choice with the most votes decides Edward's actions, but I take into account the votes and arguments for choices that don't make it as well. They are just as important because they let me see everyone's wants. I won't ever stop you from changing your vote, but I do ask that if you do change your vote, you do it only because you honestly changed your mind for some reason. Not because you're watching votes come in and you want to nudge the scale or play 'kingmaker'. Please continue to vote.
The needle simply must fall. >6 votes for option three, Corrin's plan of a public and painful execution, for diplomatic and deterrent reasons, without being too excessive as to alienate anyone. >2 votes for option four, Mania's plan of a public trial, for doing fair justice and showing the peasants Edward is a good King. >5 votes for option six, Tharja's plan of letting Oana stay alive in the dungeon... until Erika arrives and can 'harvest' her. (Also giving the witches an ongoing presence and voice in the Council.) Follow Corrin's safe plan of a grotesque punishment as a deterrent, both near and far. One done without being too cruel. Poll closed. Update soon.
You've made your decision, you announce. You must show strength. You must show the people you are not weak. You must show potential assassins and all who would challenge your rule that you are not weak. But, neither will you be a cruel tyrant. You will therefore disregard the more elaborate propositions and follow Corrin's proposal. Oana is to be executed in a way that is painful, torturous, and stark. Befitting attempted regicide, which is the worst of all crimes that could be done. However, not so absolutely cruel that it would overshadow your reign. Your aim is to be a King generous to his people, who will guide the Kingdom to prosperity. You see most of the Council start to nod. Mania looks a little displeased though. In that case, you say. The next decision is how exactly to complete this execution. ... You discuss your execution method with the Council. First will be preventing Oana from speaking. Her tongue will be removed before she is brought out of the dungeon. ...Can one of the soldiers do that, you ask Robin? Robin looks uncomfortable. "I'd prefer to let the medicus handle the actual... process, Your Majesty. Decapitation by axe is one thing, but reaching into a woman's mouth is something else. It would affect morale, even if it were in your name." She does know that the medicus has tools that will make him able to avoid injury. Iron tongs, for example. As she describes it, you start to understand why Robin suggested Oana suffer death by crossbow. Torturous, but dispassionate and something the soldiers are trained to do. Oh well. Next, Oana will be brought out to the public. She'll be bound, but allowed to see and hear. She'll need to be upright, so she doesn't choke on her own blood. Once in a position where both the peasants and any castle folk wish to watch, her skin will be flayed from her body by the medicus. "She'll pass out, but wake up in horror," says Corrin. "Her skin is old and thin, so this should be exceptionally easy." Mania's expression darkens. Corrin goes on to suggest that once she's done screaming, people will be encouraged to either stone her, or pour offal on her. Until they're bored, or too tired to continue. Only then will she be lowered to the ground, and her head separated from her body by axe. Even if she's dead by then, it's important she be executed in this manner as a show she is truly dead. "The final act is the 'compassionate' part, Your Majesty. Her body is sent to the nearest cathedral to be interred befitting her nobility." --That's the compassionate part? She's dead by then. Why not throw her in the cemetery for the commoners, burn her remains, or throw them in the moat, you ask? Corrin gives a small little laugh, betraying nervousness. "It's important to recognize she's still an aristocrat, Your Majesty. She's of noble birth. Her remains must be buried. In an unmarked grave, but one for aristocrats. You see Mania balling her fists. She really didn't like that comment. You recognize immediately that she must hate the fact she personally would still, technically, be considered nobility. ... What if you strip her of her nobility, you ask? Don't you have the right to do that, as King? Corrin nods. "You do have that right... but that would cause problems for you. It would mean her offspring are also stripped of their nobility, since it's inherited. Dimitrie, Your Knight, would therefore become a commoner." ...Oh. There's logic there. It looks like you'll have to accept Oana is still a noble and give her body some... 'dignity'. More than her acts deserved. You think Corrin has hit the right notes of 'horrifying, but not cruel.' Especially the skinning part. You only hope the medicus is prepared to do that without outright killing her. You look around the table and ask for everyone's final thoughts on the decision. Robin pauses. "It is a fair punishment and fits your goals, Your Majesty. I have no objection." Good. You turn toward Ricardo and Camilla. This time, Ricardo speaks. "It sounds appropriate, and more to the point, able to be completed with the tools we have available. The loss of any 'work' is negligible. I approve." You nod. It's an idea that doesn't involve your animals, so you skip Cordelia. Corrin himself simply looks pleased his proposal was chosen. At least, if his subtle smile is to be believed. You proceed to ask for Father Tomas's thoughts. "Appropriate for the crime of regicide, Your Majesty. I ask only that I be permitted to offer her the sacrament of confession before it begins, in hopes her soul may be cleansed of sin." ...Ah yes. A deathbed confession. You doubt Oana will actually take it. --Actually, won't that give Oana an opportunity to 'confess' your secrets? You pause, then decide to press the issue. What if Oana uses that as an opportunity to denounce you, paint you as a monster, or babble any other manner of things to him, you ask? Father Tomas pauses, looking at you with surprise. "That would be a violation of the sacrament. I would not hear it." ... Hahaha. It seems Father Tomas has some sense. You hold back actually laughing, but you attribute your concern to mere paranoia. Of course you have to allow Father Tomas to speak with her. Of course it won't matter what she says. He'll dismiss it as lies and live in his shell. Then... Witch Mania, you ask? "..." Mania sits silent. The silence goes on longer than could be considered comfortable. Finally, she speaks. "This is not a perfect balance. But it will be a type of balance. It will be accepted as satisfaction for the hatred of what was done to Sir. The Goddess may not celebrate, but she will know the truth. She will accept it." ...All right. You let Mania's statement be her last word. You may as well ask for Tharja's opinion. Is this all right, you ask? It's your decision that's best not only for Ruhemania, but the family. "..." Tharja slowly smiles. "I'm glad it's all over, Edward." Good. Tharja might be a little disappointed she can't offer her arriving 'friend' a welcoming gift, but this will have to do. You propose an open question: is there further business? Camilla speaks up. "We have reached out to the money lenders. After they arrive, may we plan another Council meeting?" ...Hm. A subtle little request for another meeting. You should consider it. It will be an issue that can affect the whole castle, but on the other hand, you've heard from most of them already. As well as the private considerations of Ricardo and Camilla. At best, this would be a reaction to what 'face' the money lenders present to you. --Still, you can't rule out that there may be merit to such a meeting.​ Choice time: 1. Yes, that seems appropriate. Approve a future Council meeting. (Decrease Monarch Authority, increase Council's expectations of being heard. Increase the faction satisfaction of the entire council.) 2. No, the decision of how to handle the money lenders must remain yours alone, with only ministers being asked on a one-to-one basis. No need to bring together the Council. (Monarch Authority increases.) 3. It is too early to make that decision. Tell Camilla you'll take it under consideration. (Monarch Authority increases. Faction satisfaction increases or decreases in ways Edward can't predict.)
>>2801 Option three. The moneylenders are a wild card; we need to see what happens.
>>2801 Option 3. I agree with Femanon, too many variables to commit either way yet.
>>2801 Option 3. Maybe when they come to us we could ask Beatrice to gather information about them before requesting for a Council meeting.
Option 1.
>>2801 Option 3
Option One. ...Crap, I forgot about the flaying. Too late now. XP
>2 votes for option one, promise to call another council meeting after the money lenders arrive. >4 votes for option three, tell Camilla you'll take her advice under consideration, but no hard decision approving or denying a future council meeting, yet. Deny Camilla's request and retain your right to call a Council meeting or not based only on your prerogative. Poll closed. Update soon.
You don't want to commit to a decision about that until they actually arrive. Circumstances may dictate it, or circumstances may make it unnecessary. You've heard Camilla's request, but you have to refuse to commit either way, for now. Only after the moneylenders arrive will you know for sure. After you've had the opportunity to judge their demeanor will you will act as you see fit. ... Ah, you spot Mania's reaction. a little sigh. She's disappointed. It makes sense. Mania was the one most against repaying the moneylenders. She won't be able to speak again without another meeting. She's losing her chance to hear the situation and influence it. You'll have to consider if you should call the meeting after all. Everyone else seems to accept your decision with no issue. ...You think. >No choice yet. Further update coming soon. Balance of Power >Monarch Authority has increased. >No change of the Council's expectation of being heard. >No change of influence for any faction. >Mania's satisfaction has decreased.
You ask if anyone has further business to bring up. No one makes a move to speak. That would signify the council meeting is over, then. ...But. Who's to say you can't call on your own concerns? You did it enough in the first council meeting. It may be best to keep them on their toes. Especially after you have met them all individually and learned more about their wants, responsibilities, and plans. This would be a good opportunity to have them openly collaborate, or put pressure on them to act. Engaging with them more could also show you're listening to them, even if you don't intend to do much. There could be value to say you're bringing out 'new business' just to rehash previous point. ...Or, you could just as easily call it a day. Is it worth it to bring up your own 'business,' whether with a specific goal, or merely for appearances? You think it over, and make your choice. Choice time: 1. Continue the council meeting. (Choices to affect the Balance of Power will continue.) 2. Call an end to the meeting and dismiss the attendees. (The council meeting ends. The Balance of Power will coalesce around the changes that were made at this meeting until the Council meets again.)
>>2815 Mmm... I don't recall anything else that we could discuss with the council right now. Or is this an opportunity to write-in some proposals? (If we choose to keep this meeting)
>>2816 My plan was that continuing will allow Edward to call on various factions, specifically. And giving them the chance to talk more would either increase their importance in the Balance of Power or lower it, depending on what Edward asks and how he frames it. But write-ins for specific questions posed to everyone at once are encouraged, too.
>> 2817 Option No.1 then.
>>2813 Option one.
>>2817 option 1
>>2815 Option one. I don't have anything particular here, but anything that you all have in mind or Ed thinks up could merit being discussed. Getting our council's input on things and knowing their position is the point of all this, after all.
Only 4 votes, but they're unanimous, and this is more of a "transition" choice, anyway. >4 votes for option one, continue the meeting. Have Edward bring up his own "business" before dismissing the Council. (These choices will affect the Balance of Power.) Poll closed. Update soon.
If no one has further business, you will bring up your own concerns and other issues you would like to discuss for the sake of open and frank communication, you say. Your words get everyone's attention. They likely thought you would just end the meeting there, especially since Robin all but called it. Perhaps all the more reason to continue, just to show you hold the reins. Therefore, you want to hear from them, you lead. ... They all look at you expectantly, waiting for where you're about to take them. Unfortunately, you're putting yourself on the spot and you don't have any specific issue to call to their attention. You decide you'll focus on one person, let them speak, then concoct a problem for the council to hear. You should tread lightly. You've shown yourself to be a King who wants to be involved with the running of the Kingdom. Even soft criticism or spare praise may be interpreted as a snub or celebration. You have to commit to at least one person. ... Oh, should you exclude Tharja? You're not sure. What would you ask her about? --Ah, you remember. Tharja is the one who is in charge of the maid hierarchy. She handles the problems the servants may bring up. There could possibly be a reason to call on her. Though, you're not about to embarrass Tharja. The rest of the council will likely just take it as you wanting to show off how much you love your wife if you call upon her. At any rate... Choice time: 1. Call on Robin to speak. There's sure to be many issues related to the state of the Army. 2. Call on Cordelia to speak. You haven't heard from her much, and it may allow you to fine-tune your stables and kennels. 3. Call on Corrin to speak. You went with his plan for Oana, but there's surely other issues to talk about. 4. Call on Ricardo to speak. Perhaps there's a better plan for managing money. 5. Call on Tomas to speak. The Church's representative's happiness and positive image of you is tantamount. 6. Call on Mania to speak. Hear about any other possible hidden concerns she has regarding the spirits. 7. Call on Tharja to speak. >(Monarch Power increases, the rest of the council's satisfaction, except for Mania and Tomas, goes down.)​ To be sure, the other choices other than Tharja do not change opinions by themselves, yet. I'm experimenting with a new format that should allow precise changes to the BoP to be seen at a glance, and the others don't change anything by themselves until the next round. After at least one person is called on, Edward can say he's satisfied and end the meeting at any time.
Option 4. We need to start giving some love to our money situation.
>>2831 Option 2
>>2831 Option 6. Let's hear Mania, she was one of the most affected by our previous decision.
Option 4
Option 4: Ricardo at the very least, it will show that we are still actively concerned with correcting our finances.
>>2831 Option 4. I concur that we need to circle back and see if Ricardo has any new thoughts on our financial woes. That said, I would also like to give Cordelia a chance to speak, preferably without Robin running over her.
>>2831 Option 6 Mania seems pretty upset by our choices and by the comments of the others in the meeting. We should give her some opportunity to voice her mind and see if we can accommodate.
>1 vote for option two, call on Cordelia to speak about the stables and kennels. >4 votes for option four, call on Ricardo to speak about the treasury. >2 votes for option six, call on Mania for her more detailed observation about the spirits. Call on Ricardo, your Master of Coin, to speak. (And possibly Camilla by extension.) Poll closed. Update soon.

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